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Postby ozzy72 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:03 am

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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby Flying Trucker » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:53 am

Thanks Mark...interesting Link... ;)
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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby FSX_Dude » Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:21 am

Very intresting...
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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby C » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:28 pm

Nothing like jumping on a bandwagon. Od course the very lean RAF has quite a lot of Hawk T1s now the T2 has arrived, so the fact it's been out of production (for quite some time), is, at best, pointless. It all depends how long BAES will support the legacy Hawk, which considering the number of rich countries have it, may not be a big factor. Add to that the fact that the Reds are two thirds RAF PR and one third BAES sales tool, then I think this story really is jumping on RAFAT's recent bad luck. :-?
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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby C » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:30 pm

"It'll be a propeller driven plane... or a jet..." Good god. This man's a genius! ;D
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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby machineman9 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:32 pm

It wasn't the aeroplane that I thought they would be changing. Though it still wouldn't surprise me if they added new regulations to air displays given the incidents this year.

The Tucano would make sense as a replacement, given that it's the Hawk Trainer-Trainer, but it's not British.

How about a Spitfire/A380/Concorde? I think we need a petition  ;)
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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby C » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:08 pm

Ahhh, this is easier. Sorry for bad SPG in my previous replies - both typed on the phone!

It wasn't the aeroplane that I thought they would be changing.


A lot has been made of the replacement of the Hawk T1 at Valley with the T2, and how the Reds will continue once it's been retired. As it is of course, 100 Sqn retain the T1, and now the rest are being phased out of the system (a not very busy system at the moment!) at Valley, airframes and spare can't really be a long term issue.


Though it still wouldn't surprise me if they added new regulations to air displays given the incidents this year.



Neither was during a display, and there's a strong chance both were freak accidents - certainly the latter should have no effect at all.

The Tucano would make sense as a replacement


Very torquey and would be a lot more difficult for close formation aerobatics! Also it's due to disappear before the Hawk T1 ultimately goes. Pilatus PC21 however... ;)

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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby expat » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:16 am

"It'll be a propeller driven plane... or a jet..." Good god. This man's a genius! ;D



Bugger, I was rather looking forward to The Slingsby T21 aerobatic team ;D ;D

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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby ozzy72 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:47 pm

I was rather looking forward to The Slingsby T21 aerobatic team

Alas, unable to get into the air due to the enormous mass of their testicles just getting into that death trap ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Changes for the Reds

Postby expat » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:52 am

I was rather looking forward to The Slingsby T21 aerobatic team

Alas, unable to get into the air due to the enormous mass of their testicles just getting into that death trap ;D ;D ;D



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