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Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:07 am**

Two Red Arrow jets collided mid-air off the coast of Crete today, the Ministry of Defence said.

One pilot ejected and has been taken to hospital, the second landed safely. The state of the two aircraft is not yet known.

The MoD said the Red Arrow team had not been practicing a routine but the two jets involved were taking part in pre-season training.

"We can confirm that an incident has occurred involving the Red Arrows whilst undertaking pre-season training at Hellenic Air Force Base Kastelli in Crete," an MoD spokesman said.

"One pilot ejected and has been taken to hospital, the other landed safely."

The identity of the pilots involved was not given.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:59 am**

Thanks Mark...

First we heard of this here.

If you can will you keep us up to-date?

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:16 pm**

Two Red Arrow jets collided mid-air off the coast of Crete today, the Ministry of Defence said.

One pilot ejected and has been taken to hospital, the second landed safely. The state of the two aircraft is not yet known.

One aircraft is a smoking hole in the ground and the other requires a new fin tip and a tailplane :-?.

Daily Mail so don't take it as gospel, but the pictures are of interest.

Matt

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:24 pm**

Red Arrows? Is that like American Blue Angels?

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:26 pm**

Red Arrows? Is that like American Blue Angels?

More like the Thunderbirds, since it's the RAF, not the Royal Navy.

Actually, it's a lot closer to the Canadian Snowbirds, if you've ever seen them, as they use more aircraft and use trainers.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:32 pm**

Red Arrows? Is that like American Blue Angels?

Red Arrows

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:37 pm**

Here is an interesting formation showing all four flight teams.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008_ ... 4-ship.jpg

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:44 pm**

One aircraft is a smoking hole in the ground and the other requires a new fin tip and a tailplane :-?.

Don't you mean "rear wing"!

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:31 pm**

Here is an interesting formation showing all four flight teams.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008_ ... 4-ship.jpg

That's a great shot.

Posted: **Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:43 am**

I loved one of the papers this morning with the "One pilot ejected and is in hospital, the other pilot ejected and landed safely"

Journalists..... what a bunch ::)

Posted: **Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:38 am**

I would consider the Red Arrows to be the demonstration team equivalent to the American Blue Angels, and my country's Snowbirds. They're all national demonstration teams part of the military. Anyhow, reading some of the comments underneath that story made me realize, there's quite a few of Red Arrows haters out there. That's kinda sad I think. The sole purpose of their existence is to entertain people. I think any of the previously mentioned demonstration teams are amazing.

Posted: **Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:11 am**

Two Red Arrow jets collided mid-air off the coast of Crete today, the Ministry of Defence said.

One pilot ejected and has been taken to hospital, the second landed safely. The state of the two aircraft is not yet known.

One aircraft is a smoking hole in the ground and the other requires a new fin tip and a tailplane :-?.

Daily Mail so don't take it as gospel, but the pictures are of interest.

Matt

[color=#000000]The smaller pictures off to the right were of some interest also.

Posted: **Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:20 pm**

Anyhow, reading some of the comments underneath that story made me realize, there's quite a few of Red Arrows haters out there. That's kinda sad I think.

I wouldn't take any comments on the article with any credence - the "Daily Mail" has a nickname in the service of the "Daily Hate"...

Posted: **Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:42 pm**

They probably have as much understanding of the Red Arrows, the RAF, and the teams role as they do about particle physics; probably absolutely none at all.

When I was visiting the Reds at Scampton the other year we were getting a tour of the aircraft and one of the mechanics pointed out that the massive "Royal Air Force" lettering on the side of the jets was because people didn't know they were part of the RAF at all. Perhaps they are the same people who didn't know we have RAF stations abroad and they probably don't even know that a war is going on at all. It must be great living such a naive outlook on life.

All the best to the pilot. I'm sure he'll pull through and I look forward to seeing them later this year.

Posted: **Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:02 pm**

It's true, a lot of people don't know that some of these high performance demonstration teams are part of the military. Just like many astronaut's are part of the military, a lot of people just don't seem to clue in. It's almost scary.

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