Simviation Forums

There wasn't a river close enough to save this one

Oh darm!

Saw this this morning before work. Tragic, one witness said the engines were sputtering as the plane passed over.

A true and awful tragedy. I hope that an answer is swift in coming on this

There was a report not too long ago that it had been two years without a fatal crash for commercial aviation in the United States. Couldn't keep it up forever, I guess. :-/

I heard another clue in this news release. The engines went silent before the crash?  

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/ho ... ses_090213

one witness said the engines were sputtering as the plane passed over.

I heard another clue in this news release. The engines went silent before the crash?

I wouldn't take much notice of eye-witness reports. They're usually unreliable. Media interviewers are very good at asking leading questions & they end up saying things they don't really mean.

N200WQ a Q400 inbound runway 23 opperated by Colgan.

I stayed up till 3A.M. Watching the TV.  Once they let us I am going to see the extent of the damage...

It appears that they are looking at ice build up on the aircraft. That is the problem with large turboprop, ATR, Dash and alike. You have to wait for the ice to build up before it can be got rid off. I spannered on ATR 42 and 72's for nearly 5 years, the biggest pain was de-icer (note, not anti ice) boots.

Matt

It appears that they are looking at ice build up on the aircraft. That is the problem with large turboprop, ATR, Dash and alike. You have to wait for the ice to build up before it can be got rid off. I spannered on ATR 42 and 72's for nearly 5 years, the biggest pain was de-icer (note, not anti ice) boots.

Matt

...and the latest News from the BBC...

Ice build up....>>>>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7889764.stm

Paul...G-BPLF.. 8-)...!

Ive been hearing alot more of airplane crashes then usual.
Its not to good.

As I don't want to start a new thread, I'll add this:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6264553.html

As I don't want to start a new thread, I'll add this:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6264553.html

I have a friend that works with COEX and he said that the AP on off during landing in bad weather is common practice only when icing is occuring.  It's just easier to land that way.

As I don't want to start a new thread, I'll add this:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6264553.html

I have a friend that works with COEX and he said that the AP on off during landing in bad weather is common practice only when icing is occuring.

I am not going to take any guesses myself, much too novice a pilot.

I have heard icing, engine sputtering, one NTSB person mentioned a flat spin, because it landed belly down, facing the opposite direction of the flight path.

Another mention was wild attiude changes, including almost inverted flight.

Another article suggested the passengers and crew were up against 2Gs toward the end.

I have added their souls to my prayers.