Security Breach

Real aviation things here. News, items of interest, information, questions, etc!

Security Breach

Postby Papa9571 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:17 am

Greenpeace activists have climbed on top of a 777 in protest.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... 90,00.html
User avatar
Papa9571
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 614
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:15 am
Location: Toledo, Ohio

Re: Security Breach

Postby Fozzer » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:57 am

There are an ever-growing number of Folks, daily, from all walks of life, protesting about the expansion of Heathrow Airport.

It makes you wonder about the whole subject of Air Travel, and its effects, at the moment?

Paul....Quite happy just Motor-Biking around England... 8-)..!
Win 8.1 64-bit. DX11. Advent Tower. Intel i7-3770 3.9 GHz 8-core. 8 GB System RAM. AMD Radeon HD 7700 1GB RAM. DVD ROM. 2 Terra Byte SATA Hard Drive. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Saitek Cyborg X Fly-5 Joystick. ...and a Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower.
User avatar
Fozzer
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 27361
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2002 3:11 pm
Location: Hereford. England. EGBS.

Re: Security Breach

Postby expat » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:24 am

There are an ever-growing number of Folks, daily, from all walks of life, protesting about the expansion of Heathrow Airport.

It makes you wonder about the whole subject of Air Travel, and its effects, at the moment?

Paul....Quite happy just Motor-Biking around England... 8-)..!


Makes me wonder how these Muppets want to put themselves in bodily danger from everything from armed police to the ramp area. You would not wander along the edge of the fast lane of motorway any more that of a ramp at a busy airport when you have no idea of how it operates. Not just that, but a high gloss aircraft surface can be like standing on ice without the correct footwear. Brainless idiots who have no regard for the potential consequences of the simple action of climbing on an aircraft and I am not talking about the law aspect............pull the steps away, leave them up there until they are cold and hunger and then leave them for another 24 hours before letting them down >:(

Matt
"A bit of a pickle" - British translation: A catastrophically bad situation with potentially fatal consequences.

PETA Image People Eating Tasty Animals.

B1 (Cat C) licenced engineer, Boeing 737NG 600/700/800/900 Airbus A318/19/20/21 and Dash8 Q-400
1. Captain, if the problem is not entered into the technical logbook.........then the aircraft does not have a problem.
2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
User avatar
expat
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 8679
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:06 am
Location: Deep behind enemy lines....

Re: Security Breach

Postby Fozzer » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:43 am

There are an ever-growing number of Folks, daily, from all walks of life, protesting about the expansion of Heathrow Airport.

It makes you wonder about the whole subject of Air Travel, and its effects, at the moment?

Paul....Quite happy just Motor-Biking around England... 8-)..!


Makes me wonder how these Muppets want to put themselves in bodily danger from everything from armed police to the ramp area. You would not wander along the edge of the fast lane of motorway any more that of a ramp at a busy airport when you have no idea of how it operates. Not just that, but a high gloss aircraft surface can be like standing on ice without the correct footwear. Brainless idiots who have no regard for the potential consequences of the simple action of climbing on an aircraft and I am not talking about the law aspect............pull the steps away, leave them up there until they are cold and hunger and then leave them for another 24 hours before letting them down >:(

Matt


..too many people, too many flippin' aeroplanes, too much of every-bleedin' thing....

...time to start all over again?... ;)...!

Paul...Rewinding, back to the Big Bang...LOL...;D...!
Last edited by Fozzer on Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
Win 8.1 64-bit. DX11. Advent Tower. Intel i7-3770 3.9 GHz 8-core. 8 GB System RAM. AMD Radeon HD 7700 1GB RAM. DVD ROM. 2 Terra Byte SATA Hard Drive. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Saitek Cyborg X Fly-5 Joystick. ...and a Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower.
User avatar
Fozzer
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 27361
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2002 3:11 pm
Location: Hereford. England. EGBS.

Re: Security Breach

Postby Chris_F » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:45 am

I'm sure the environment would be MUCH better off if all those flights just go through Gatwick instead...
Last edited by Chris_F on Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
Chris_F
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1364
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:59 pm

Re: Security Breach

Postby expat » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:58 am

I'm sure the environment would be MUCH better off if all those flights just go through Gatwick instead...  ::)

Stupid Greenpeace.

Imagine how much fuel was wasted when they had to shut down the airport for the hour or so it would have taken to clean up that mess.  All those planes idling on the ground or circling in the air.  Morons...


Whist I think that those involved are total dick heads, I can't help wonder over the total over reaction "we" make to such things. Why did aircraft have to be diverted or put into a hold pattern just because a couple of people climb on a parked aircraft. Put a cordon around it, a copper to watch over it and let them get on with it. They will soon get tired and come down.

Matt

Edit...What is the difference between these two and two techs changing a TCAS antenna for example............apart from the obvious. It is still two people on an aircraft. Diverting and hold patterns, that is just someone being self important.
Last edited by expat on Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
"A bit of a pickle" - British translation: A catastrophically bad situation with potentially fatal consequences.

PETA Image People Eating Tasty Animals.

B1 (Cat C) licenced engineer, Boeing 737NG 600/700/800/900 Airbus A318/19/20/21 and Dash8 Q-400
1. Captain, if the problem is not entered into the technical logbook.........then the aircraft does not have a problem.
2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
User avatar
expat
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 8679
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:06 am
Location: Deep behind enemy lines....

Re: Security Breach

Postby Xyn_Air » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:20 am

I wonder if a suitable counter-protest to these folk climbing on a 777 would be to park a 777 on top of them?

;D

OK, I meant that as a joke!

As for protests, one thing I have learned over the years (often by opening my big yap before having all the information and making myself the fool) is that issues are often much more complex than idealists (and even pessimists, and a whole lot of other ist-ists) make it out to be.

So, air travel is going to kill us?  What about the tons and tons and tons of medical and food supplies that are distributed around the world in a timely and effective manner because of air transport?  Should we go ahead and let those in need suffer, starve, and die?  If a expanding a hub airport to handle more traffic is bad, would having a lot more activity at surrounding, smaller airports be better?

On the other hand, the environment is important. And, if we don't play nice with mother nature, some day she is liable to shake us off like a handful of fleas.  So, can we ignore the impact fossil fuel use has on the world?

So many sides to everything.  But, one, it isn't going to change overnight.  And, two, it will require level heads and reasoned discussion - not stupid grandstanding.

In this day and age, these four yahoos should be glad they weren't shot!  Who the fudgy-fudge sneaks onto an airfield illegally these days that has half-a-brain?!?  And in any day and age, traipsing around an airfield when you do not belong, when no one knows you are there, and when you don't know what the fudgy-fudge you are doing is asking for a tragedy!  This is not socially responsible protest, this is a foolish publicity stunt designed to hype an issue rather than bring reason to it.  I hope they have some time to cool their heels and reflect on the error of their ways - preferably doing many, many, many hours of community service while wearing something suitably orange or striped.  This has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with reasonable safety - not just for those four knuckleheads, but for everyone there at the airport.

So, I suppose now in addition to signs posted at airports telling people not to joke about explosives and hijackings, we will need signs warning them to not be utter wankers.

Sigh,
Darrin
Image
User avatar
Xyn_Air
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 516
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:29 am
Location: Minot, North Dakota

Re: Security Breach

Postby Sakura » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:05 am

I think they were lucky not to get shot or shredded.
Image
User avatar
Sakura
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 559
Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:25 am
Location: UK

Re: Security Breach

Postby OVERLORD_CHRIS » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:51 am

They should have been shoot on sight....on another note, security is lacking at th Airport if they got in, and climbed on a plane. Terrorist could have done far werst.
Image
User avatar
OVERLORD_CHRIS
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1136
Joined: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:56 am
Location: Chalreston SC

Re: Security Breach

Postby Saitek » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:15 am

The reason why the airplanes had to circle was because they could have had a bomb. Terrorists can easily dress up as Greenpeace activists if it means they can bomb something. They should have been taken down at gunpoint and perhaps Greenpeace would like to help pay for the costs incurred from all the trouble and delay? ::)
Windows 7 Pro 64bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E2180 2GHz
GA-P35-DS3L Intel P35
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2) DDR2 6400C4 800Mhz
GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
2 x 22" monitors
200GB Sata
Be Quiet! Straight Power 650W

Flying FS
Saitek
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 5274
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:04 pm
Location: UK

Re: Security Breach

Postby Celtman » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:07 am

Greenpeace campaigners have breached security at London's Heathrow airport


If Greenpeace nutters can do it, doesn't say much about the prevention of International Terrorism.....  ::)

perhaps Greenpeace would like to help pay for the costs incurred from all the trouble and delay?


park a 777 on top of them

^ I like Darrin's way of making them pay ;D

Regards,
Neil 8-)
Last edited by Celtman on Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Celtman
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 594
Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:22 am
Location: Warrington

Re: Security Breach

Postby Fozzer » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:26 am

I can remember the glory days when I used to Motor-Bike down the A40 Trunk road from Hereford to London in the late 1940's, early 1950's,  in peace and quiet, no noise, no traffic, and not a single massive Passenger Jet in sight, as I passed Heathrow...

Those were the days...long gone now!...;)...!

Paul... ;)...!

http://www.heathrowairport.com/portal/p ... e120a____/
Win 8.1 64-bit. DX11. Advent Tower. Intel i7-3770 3.9 GHz 8-core. 8 GB System RAM. AMD Radeon HD 7700 1GB RAM. DVD ROM. 2 Terra Byte SATA Hard Drive. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Saitek Cyborg X Fly-5 Joystick. ...and a Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower.
User avatar
Fozzer
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 27361
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2002 3:11 pm
Location: Hereford. England. EGBS.

Re: Security Breach

Postby Vapour01 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:10 pm

Prats.
Vapour01
 

Re: Security Breach

Postby TSC. » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:32 pm

Idiots, banging on about climate change - bet they all turned up in a  clapped out 2CV each, without a care for the pollution thrown out by these 'hippy' cars.

Is there still climate change happening on Mars? A planet noted for it's absence of planes & cars?

TSC.
Image

'Only two things are infinite.......The Universe and Human stupidity........and I'm not too sure about the Universe' - Einstein
User avatar
TSC.
Major
Major
 
Posts: 4273
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:11 am
Location: Torquay, Devon, England.

Re: Security Breach

Postby Chris_F » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:08 pm

[quote]What about the tons and tons and tons of medical and food supplies that are distributed around the world in a timely and effective manner because of air transport?
Chris_F
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1364
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:59 pm

Next

Return to Real Aviation

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 489 guests