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Has anyone else seen the article in Time magazine bashing the v-22? All but one of the  problems stated by the writer are bogus. He states the the rotorwash causes a visibility while on the ground, a trait of every vtol craft ever made and not a problem. here is the link, check out the graphic

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 82,00.html

I saw that.  It was pretty sad.  Oh well, media these days, whatever will sell the most issues...

He states the the rotorwash causes a visibility while on the ground, a trait of every vtol craft ever made and not a problem.

That certainly is a problem (particularly in a couple of warm sandy places), but to be fair, an unavoidable one...

The mainsteam press has been bashing the V-22 from the get-go. It seems they can't grasp that all inovative creations go through a 'finding out' phase during testing.

Journalists don't actually DO anything. They report what others do.... they have made brilliant claims since the dawn of time and have always been proved wrong by visionaries! Heck I bet the first caveman who painted on the wall of his cave had an art critic come along and pee on it

The mainsteam press has been bashing the V-22 from the get-go. It seems they can't grasp that all inovative creations go through a 'finding out' phase during testing.

What other aircraft spends 25 years in SDD (with no sign of moving to LRIP by the way)?  Has any platform taken that long?  Heck, the F22 was in production sooner in its lifecycle, and I don't think anyone will argue that it's a less complicated aircraft.

Either the prime is incompetent or the principle is unworkable.  Either way it's a waste of money and should be canceled.  Maybe it would make a good NASA research project, but it isn't a weapons development program.

He states the the rotorwash causes a visibility while on the ground, a trait of every vtol craft ever made and not a problem.

That certainly is a problem (particularly in a couple of warm sandy places), but to be fair, an unavoidable one...

how is this a problem? If the enemy's vision is obscured by a dust cloud, they can't see what person or part of the aircraft they are shooting at. the chances of surviving go up hugely...

I love it when the journalists become so called Aviation experts...Fun to see them make those rather silly errors...And yet, they think they are soo good...LOL...I make it a point to congratulate the reporter in case he/she actually does manage to say something right...

He states the the rotorwash causes a visibility while on the ground, a trait of every vtol craft ever made and not a problem.

That certainly is a problem (particularly in a couple of warm sandy places), but to be fair, an unavoidable one...

how is this a problem? If the enemy's vision is obscured by a dust cloud, they can't see what person or part of the aircraft they are shooting at. the chances of surviving go up hugely...

Infrared??

Also unless filtered, all that sand will render the engine useless very quickly.


Matt

Time Magazine wel heck every single magazine and newspaper are just trying to find idiotic stories for something to do and to make money. Most things are true some are over reacted. Who cares if the V-22 has a alrger rotor-wash it's not like it has an effect on Time Magazine... WTH!!?!??!?!?
Why do people ahve a problem with any aircraft that is a great creative idea and diffrent from other aircraft? Or any aircraft with a 22 behind their name Take the F-35, 787 and A380 for example. They have all been criticized and teased for all the time for no reason and nothing to prove their reason.
Just my $0.02 AUD  ;D

idiots

Time Magazine wel heck every single magazine and newspaper are just trying to find idiotic stories for something to do and to make money. Most things are true some are over reacted. Who cares if the V-22 has a alrger rotor-wash it's not like it has an effect on Time Magazine... WTH!!?!??!?!?
Why do people ahve a problem with any aircraft that is a great creative idea and diffrent from other aircraft? Or any aircraft with a 22 behind their name Take the F-35, 787 and A380 for example. They have all been criticized and teased for all the time for no reason and nothing to prove their reason.
Just my $0.02 AUD  ;D

idiots

Simple, it is human nature to knock something even when it it a good idea. In the UK for example, it is a national sport to build a person/thing up and then knock them/it right back down. The media hates success, bad news sells better.

Matt

Simple, it is human nature to knock something even when it it a good idea.

The V22 is a good idea?!?  It's a collosal waste of money and human life.  It's an abject failure.  It's useless.  If it were simply a research vehicle or proof of concept I'd say it's a success, but it's supposed to be a fieldable platform, and it's taken too long to get where it is and cost too much.  The rotor wash thing is a needless knock, but that program deserves to be canceled.  I think politics and intertia are the only things keeping it alive.

how is this a problem? If the enemy's vision is obscured by a dust cloud, they can't see what person or part of the aircraft they are shooting at. the chances of surviving go up hugely...

The military loses far more craft to everyday crashes than they do to enemy fire.  A helocopter has the same visibility problem  but this is a physically larger, less maneuverable craft which probably makes this issue worse for it than a typical helocopter.  A higher non-combat loss rate is more important than a slight survivability increase (which would likely be negligable).

Simple, it is human nature to knock something even when it it a good idea.

The V22 is a good idea?!?  It's a collosal waste of money and human life.  It's an abject failure.  It's useless.  If it were simply a research vehicle or proof of concept I'd say it's a success, but it's supposed to be a fieldable platform, and it's taken too long to get where it is and cost too much.  The rotor wash thing is a needless knock, but that program deserves to be canceled.  I think politics and intertia are the only things keeping it alive.

I did not say it was a good idea, just human nature to knock one.

Matt

I've heard a couple Marine pilots talk about it, and they love it.  It can get into an area faster than anything else, land anywhere a helicopter could, then get back out in a hurry.