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Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:27 am
by chornedsnorkack
Sukhoi Superjet is due to roll out on 26th of September:
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... l-out.html

The launch customer is Aeroflot. But there is at least one export customer Itali Airlines.

Is Dreamliner supposed to fly before Superjet rolls out?

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:15 am
by C

Is Dreamliner supposed to fly before Superjet rolls out?


In the original schedule, yes; it was supposed to fly in August (although Boeing have all but admitted it won't).

With these glorious roll-outs/unveilings, I wondering if there's any correlation between the "impressiveness" of the name, and the overhype the type receives; this "Superjet" (does it go round saving the world?), Boeing's "Dreamliner" (blimey, I can't sleep in any airliner, so I won't be dreaming! ;D), and Airbus' "A3XX" (come on, who couldn't work out it was always going to be the A380...).

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:55 pm
by Jakemaster

Is Dreamliner supposed to fly before Superjet rolls out?


In the original schedule, yes; it was supposed to fly in August (although Boeing have all but admitted it won't).

With these glorious roll-outs/unveilings, I wondering if there's any correlation between the "impressiveness" of the name, and the overhype the type receives; this "Superjet" (does it go round saving the world?), Boeing's "Dreamliner" (blimey, I can't sleep in any airliner, so I won't be dreaming! ;D), and Airbus' "A3XX" (come on, who couldn't work out it was always going to be the A380...).


Boeing admitted it won't fly in August...well maybe not officially but they've said to the media that it should fly in September

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:42 pm
by C

Is Dreamliner supposed to fly before Superjet rolls out?


In the original schedule, yes; it was supposed to fly in August (although Boeing have all but admitted it won't).

With these glorious roll-outs/unveilings, I wondering if there's any correlation between the "impressiveness" of the name, and the overhype the type receives; this "Superjet" (does it go round saving the world?), Boeing's "Dreamliner" (blimey, I can't sleep in any airliner, so I won't be dreaming! ;D), and Airbus' "A3XX" (come on, who couldn't work out it was always going to be the A380...).


Boeing admitted it won't fly in August...well maybe not officially but they've said to the media that it should fly in September


I think the quote was "It'll fly when it's ready", and rightly so. :)

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:52 am
by expat
In the news today, it was announced that it would not fly until October at the earliest.

Matt

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:30 pm
by Ivan
Sukhoi Superjet has been known before as the RRJ. Its in no way a competitor for the Dreamliner

What it has to offer over the competition is unpaved runway capabilities.

And TsAgi has another nice 'test till it breaks' job ahead

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:52 pm
by chornedsnorkack
Sukhoi Superjet has been known before as the RRJ. Its in no way a competitor for the Dreamliner

What it has to offer over the competition is unpaved runway capabilities.



What is the competition?

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:07 pm
by Ivan
Sukhoi Superjet has been known before as the RRJ. Its in no way a competitor for the Dreamliner

What it has to offer over the competition is unpaved runway capabilities.



What is the competition?

EMB 170, EMB 195, the Canadair thingie in the same capacity range...
Basically the Sukhoi plane was designed from day 1 to be gravel and snow safe

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:36 pm
by chornedsnorkack
Sukhoi Superjet has been known before as the RRJ. Its in no way a competitor for the Dreamliner

What it has to offer over the competition is unpaved runway capabilities.



What is the competition?

EMB 170, EMB 195, the Canadair thingie in the same capacity range...
Basically the Sukhoi plane was designed from day 1 to be gravel and snow safe



Does Superjet compete with 737?

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:18 pm
by Craig.
Sukhoi Superjet has been known before as the RRJ. Its in no way a competitor for the Dreamliner

What it has to offer over the competition is unpaved runway capabilities.



What is the competition?

EMB 170, EMB 195, the Canadair thingie in the same capacity range...
Basically the Sukhoi plane was designed from day 1 to be gravel and snow safe



Does Superjet compete with 737?


Not if those two examples are to go by. It's the Regional jet market if thats the case, smaller city airports with short runways.

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:21 am
by Ivan
Does Superjet compete with 737?

No... as Boeing has selected Sukhoi to complement their product range with a regional jet

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:39 pm
by chornedsnorkack
Does Superjet compete with 737?

No... as Boeing has selected Sukhoi to complement their product range with a regional jet

What precisely has Sukhoi promised to Boeing?

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:53 pm
by Ivan
Its more like What did Boeing promise to Sukhoi.

Basically the deal is that Sukhoi wont go in the 737 market, and in return Boeing does the marketing stuff for them.

This saves Sukhoi a load of image-building money, and Boeing gets their RJ whitout having to start from scratch

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:31 pm
by chornedsnorkack
There is talk of SSJ-130.

Re: Sukhoi Superjet rollout

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:31 pm
by Xyn_Air
The Sukhoi Superjet is supposed to be able to land on unpaved surfaces?!?  :o