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There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:13 pm
by Brett_Henderson
One of our club planes.. I had just landed in the Cardinal, coming back from Ann Arbor and saw it being towed in

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:27 pm
by Mobius
Ouch, scary. :P  On a side note, that's the first 172 I've ever seen painted like a FS default 172. ;)

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:06 pm
by FTL992
Um, can you say ouch.  Yeah def. no shame in going around when in a situation like that.  I'm not a real life pilot myself but i can tell you that it's not worth that lol.

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:00 pm
by PsychoDiablo
Ouch  :(

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:17 pm
by beaky
:o Wow, I thought I'd seen some pranged Skyhawks, but that one deserves an award:
The IPIGANT, or I Promise I'll Go Around Next Time award...;D

That must've been a spine-crushing arrival; they're hard to break... a few months back a nervous student took the tie-down ring off the tail of the school's SP ... but no wrinkling; no other damage at all. ;D

Were they really trying to land a new 172 with only one notch of flaps? Not a good idea; better off with no flaps to practice slipping...  ::)

I've been going around... and around... for 12 years now, and haven't bent an airplane yet.
The magic word for my flight tomorrow morning: Go-around. ;D

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:22 am
by Jakemaster
Ouch, scary. :P  On a side note, that's the first 172 I've ever seen painted like a FS default 172. ;)


LMAO!  Sadly, that's the first thing that came to mind for me..."Is that the FS cessna?"

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:13 am
by TSC.
Ouch!!

Although, you got to give the guy credit, that little yellow truck can't be the easiest thing to land on - looks like he nailed it though.

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Still a valuable reminder, thanks for posting it Brett :)

TSC.

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:15 am
by Brett_Henderson
This was a reminder/lesson-teacher for sure. There's been a de-briefing and all the speculation you'd imagine... but the evidence is pretty telling. To bounce high enough for THAT kind of "second landing", he had to be coming in pretty hot and just got completely flustered when he found himeself 20 feet off the runway AFTER his first contact. Not a student either; he was coming back from a trip with his wife on board. It was a beautiful day for flying with a mild (7-10knot) crosswind. The really mangled main-gear was downwind, so it's obvious he just quit flying, grit his teeth and hoped for the best.. except for maybe trying to flare, 'cause the nose-gear and firewall are pretty much intact.


Full power, hold it in ground-effect until 70kias and GO AROUND !

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:22 am
by Hagar
Ouch. Nasty. I've seen some dodgy landings in my time but nothing quite as bad as that. Looks like they were lucky to get away with it.

Smashing photos. (Pun intended) :)

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:51 am
by Chris_F
That'll buff right out.

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:07 am
by expat
Looks like the low drag gear mod failed on landing. Still at least the other side stayed up.

Matt

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:02 pm
by RitterKreuz
that is the later model skyhawk factory paint  -  MSFS duplicated it for their flight sim not the other way around. I have seen many with those clors and flown a few bearing those same colors.

i think its a near looking paint job as simple as it is.

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:18 pm
by DaveSims
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Were they really trying to land a new 172 with only one notch of flaps? Not a good idea; better off with no flaps to practice slipping...

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:59 pm
by Airshow_lover
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I feel bad for the plane.

Painted like a MS default AND BLEEDING! :P

Re: There IS no shame in going around..

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:25 pm
by beaky

Were they really trying to land a new 172 with only one notch of flaps? Not a good idea; better off with no flaps to practice slipping...  ::)


Why not use 10 degrees of flaps?  I do it all the time when the winds are high.  

Lucky it didn't catch fire, I've seen another 172 do the same thing, except when the nose gear came off it ripped the fuel line from the engine as well.  Only thing left after the fire was the firewall forward, and the outer five feet of the wings.  



I'll generally go for 20 or nothing under those conditions, but of course it depends... I guess my thinking is that 10 degrees might produce a sense of false security. I've made most of my landings on runways under 3000' long; maybe that's where I get it from.

In general, I think of that first notch as for takeoffs only...but that's me.

Looks like the structure forward of the firewall didn't get damaged too badly... he seems to have gotten the nose up, but the descent rate onto the mains, combined with the "stubbing" as it came down sideways... ouch!