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SR-71 & Concorde Carrier ops!?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:11 pm
by jb2_86_uk
came across this little gem of aviation history:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1 ... OfYest=yes

Respect to the SR-71 pilot for not only landing on such a cluttered deck but in a mach 3 jet.... NICE!

Im also quite in awe of the concorde pilot for landing on that little barge. I didnt know concorde was capable of such short landings!

;D

Wish I could have been to this exhibition

JB

Re: SR-71 & Concorde Carrier ops!?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:23 pm
by Craig.
you mean you didn't know concorde was VTOL able. ;) ;D

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:50 pm
by Mictheslik
What a picture......And a skilled SR-71 pilot managing to taxi to that corner without folding wings!

.Mic

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:55 pm
by Hagar
Wish I could have been to this exhibition

JB

You can if you visit the Big Apple. http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/intrepidmuseum/index.php?MERCURYSID=9a042960b95f726b6f5291f58175fcef

Have to be quick as it closes in October until May 2008.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:02 pm
by beaky
You can if you visit the Big Apple. http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/intrepidmuseum/index.php?MERCURYSID=9a042960b95f726b6f5291f58175fcef

Have to be quick as it closes in October until May 2008.


Oh, right, I forgot- they're remodeling, aren't they?
I guess I'd better get over there for some more pix before they lock the gate.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:41 am
by dcunning30
I'd have to imagine all those aircraft exposed to the elements like that, need to be refurbished.  Near where I live, there was the SAC Museum that used to be on the tarmac at Offutt AFB.  The aircraft took a beating by the elements.  They build a huge indoor museum and carted all the aircraft about 30 miles away on country highways to the new museum.  They changed the museum's name and it's now a very nice inside, the home of one of only 3 B36 Peacemakers left.


http://www.strategicairandspace.com/general/general.htm
http://www.onfocus.com/cam/sac/
http://community.webshots.com/album/210756529HxLcKp

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:06 pm
by jb2_86_uk
You can if you visit the Big Apple. http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/intrepidmuseum/index.php?MERCURYSID=9a042960b95f726b6f5291f58175fcef

Have to be quick as it closes in October until May 2008.


Visiting the big apple IS the problem  ;) Theres a big puddle in my way (Ive heard it called the 'Atlantic Ocean' or something before  ;D

And with me being a skint student, hopping across the the US to see a museum isnt really an option.

I think Ill wait until 2008 and then go  :)

JB

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:12 am
by Chris_F
Not to pick nits but I recall from my visit to the Intrepid museum that the plane is an A12, not an SR71.  The A12 was the CIA's single seater version of the aircraft.  The SR71 was later developed for the air force and one of the modifications was the addition of the second seat.

One of the cool things is the tires on the rear landing gear: they had a special additive to keep them from either getting too hot and exploding or melting (can't remember which).  Instead of being black round donuts like normal tires they're actually silver.

If you really want to get a good look at an SR71 though check out the Air Force Armament Museum at Destin/Fort Walton Beach Florida.  THey have one on display with the engines removed.  You can see in to the gaping hole left by the missing engine and check out the titanium bowels of the plane, and crawl around underneith and stand inside the wheel wells.  The various little vents and things on the plane are fascinating: totally different from what you see on normal aircraft due to the extraordinary speeds that aircraft saw.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:23 am
by Hagar
If JB wants to see an SR-71 there's one on display at Duxford. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/Duxford_UK_Feb2005_blackbird.JPG

Also Concorde.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:05 pm
by dcunning30
Many years ago, I walked through a hangar with an operational SR-71 for 6 months to get to my workplace.  I don't rememebr seeing silver tires, but I do remember seeing pans all over the hangar floor under the plane because it leaked so much.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:24 pm
by lilley91
i wouldnt want to be an SR-71 pilot from the sounds of it, if its taking you however many miles up in the air and getting you form NY to London in under 2 hours, i wouldnt want all those leaks then!!!

james

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:30 pm
by dcunning30
The leaks are intentional.  When the plane gets up to altitude and speed, the friction on the skin causes it to heat up and expand, thereby sealing the leaks.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:36 pm
by lilley91
ah, ok then, but i still doubt i would want to be an SR-71 pilot  :P

commercial and GA all the way!

james

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:14 am
by Chris_F
I find the SR71/A12 to be the most impressive aircraft I've ever heard of, an ENORMOUS technological achievement for its time.  I heard an interview with a '71 pilot.  He was overflying Libia after the US bombing in the 80's to do bomb damage assessment.  They were flying in shortly after the F111s had left the airspace and the Libian airspace was hot, the air defenses were fully woken by the previous bombing.

Anyway, he was quickly fired on by a SAM and decided to simply outrun the missle.  He put the throttle to the stops and accelerated, leaving the missle behind.  Yikes.  Shortly after his back seater informed him he was flying "outside the envelope", going faster than the plane was rated to go.  The pilot implied that nobody really knew how fast the '71 could go, and even though he was flying the plane faster than anyone else ever had he said it felt like the plane could go much, much faster.

8)  How cool is that?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:59 pm
by Isak922
I find the SR71/A12 to be the most impressive aircraft I've ever heard of, an ENORMOUS technological achievement for its time.  I heard an interview with a '71 pilot.  He was overflying Libia after the US bombing in the 80's to do bomb damage assessment.  They were flying in shortly after the F111s had left the airspace and the Libian airspace was hot, the air defenses were fully woken by the previous bombing.

Anyway, he was quickly fired on by a SAM and decided to simply outrun the missle.  He put the throttle to the stops and accelerated, leaving the missle behind.  Yikes.  Shortly after his back seater informed him he was flying "outside the envelope", going faster than the plane was rated to go.  The pilot implied that nobody really knew how fast the '71 could go, and even though he was flying the plane faster than anyone else ever had he said it felt like the plane could go much, much faster.

8)  How cool is that?



Those engines are what were the beast =P It could have easily gone faster given a better airframe. The SR-71 is the fastest manned aircraft to ever be flown (that wasn't an X-plane), and not much has even come close since then. It really is one of the most amazing birds ever, and it's a shame they took them out of service, even though I've heard rumors a few flights have flown recently over the Middle East, I'm not sure if those are true or not though