Helicopters shouldn't float.

Real aviation things here. News, items of interest, information, questions, etc!

Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby flyboy 28 » Wed May 24, 2006 4:23 pm

User avatar
flyboy 28
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 10264
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:01 pm
Location: Jacksonville, FL

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby VVM » Wed May 24, 2006 10:13 pm

how did the pilot think that was gonna work.  i aint no pilot and i saw that coming a mile away
User avatar
VVM
2nd Lieutenant
2nd Lieutenant
 
Posts: 88
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:14 pm

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby Boss_BlueAngels » Thu May 25, 2006 12:24 am

Dude, that was awesome!  You could see the rotors tear through the tailboom after they impacted the water.  

But hey, I'd still say the test was a success... the helicopter floated! lol  (well, most of it anyway for the time being)
The day is always better when you're flying upside down.

www.fight2flyphoto.com

Canon RebelXT
Canon 18-55mm
Sigma 10-20mm F/4-6.3
Sigma 100-300mm F/4-6.3
Sigma 50-500mm F/4-6.3
User avatar
Boss_BlueAngels
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 696
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:12 pm
Location: Snohomish

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby beaky » Thu May 25, 2006 12:45 am

There are some choppers similar to that which settle onto water successfully (you look it up, i'm tired), but they don't float so much as hover with the belly getting wet. Very handy for water rescue, etc.
 I think this pilot just didn't quite set up the approach right, due to error or the helicopter just not being able to do it.
 I hope nobody got hurt- things sure got crazy when the rotors impacted the water at full throttle!!  :o
Image
User avatar
beaky
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 12877
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:00 am
Location: Shenandoah, PA USA

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby RitterKreuz » Thu May 25, 2006 1:21 am

saw that on another site, it showed the chopper in flight and it suddenly belly flopped into the water. the pilot tried his best to lift the chopper back up which resulted in that "floating" appearance. his attempts to return the chopper to the air failed resulting in the rotor strike etc.

nobody was killed during the crash, but everyone aboard (13 people i think it was) died either en route to or during their stay in the hospital.

ill see if i can find the link
RitterKreuz
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1215
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:26 am
Location: Texas

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby RitterKreuz » Thu May 25, 2006 1:24 am

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

under the helicopers section about 1/3 down the page entitled "INTO THE SEA"

13 on board all survived but one. this site claims it was a joint japanese - russian rescue training deal gone wrong early this month.

Lots of other cool vids on that page too
RitterKreuz
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1215
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:26 am
Location: Texas

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby Tweek » Thu May 25, 2006 6:43 am

I'm pretty sure a Chinook can float.
Tweek
 

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby Chris_F » Thu May 25, 2006 7:48 am

I'm pretty sure a Chinook can float.

Those old Sea King helocopters looked tailor made for floating on the water, complete with a nose that looked to be designed to cut through the water like a boat.
Chris_F
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1364
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:59 pm

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby Ivan » Thu May 25, 2006 7:56 am

Mi-14 does float... thats why the side tanks on these have a different profile (same function as Seaking maingear pods)

These helos are quite rare, only other known operator outside CIS is the Polish Navy, and most of the pictures that you can find on the net are from their machines.

Visible differences compared do Mi-17 / Mi-8:
Fuselage bottom profile
Has two front wheel sets instead of one
Has retractable gear
Tailstrike protector has a flotation device

way better picture here
Russian planes: IL-76 (all standard length ones),  Tu-154 and Il-62, Tu-134 and [url=http://an24.uw.hu/]An-24RV[/ur
Ivan
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 5805
Joined: Sun Apr 13, 2003 8:18 am
Location: The netherlands

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby Hagar » Thu May 25, 2006 10:47 am

Isn't this the same incident? http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=genav;action=display;num=1147376449

The sea in that vid doesn't look as rough as I imagined from the reports.
Image

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group
My Google Photos albums
My Flickr albums
User avatar
Hagar
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 30864
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:15 am
Location: Costa Geriatrica

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby elite marksman » Thu May 25, 2006 2:06 pm

Certain helicopters are designed to float. Many naval helos are designed to float for awhile should the pilot be forced to ditch. This attempt would have worked had the pilot tried to, or been able to, whichever the case, lift straight up, instead of start forward flight while the cockpit was still under water.
elite marksman
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:35 pm

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby Sir_Jon » Fri May 26, 2006 11:49 am

I'm pretty sure a Chinook can float.


Yep They can, I'm sure I've seen a video of it.
Image
AMD Athlon
Sir_Jon
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1593
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:37 pm
Location: Cambs, England

Re: Helicopters shouldn't float.

Postby Hai Perso Coyone? » Fri May 26, 2006 12:23 pm

Horrible...I hate it when I see any type of aircraft being sent to the grave :'( :'( :'(
User avatar
Hai Perso Coyone?
Ground hog
Ground hog
 
Posts: 0
Joined: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: Rome, Italy


Return to Real Aviation

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 410 guests