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Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:53 pm
by Staiduk
Hello - I guess this'll be the right place for this topic.

Anyhoo; I went to a preview of the new IMAX film; Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag at the Science Center in Toronto last night. It's scheduled - apparently - to be the new IMAX film at Wright-Patterson; among other places.

This is an Omnimax film - where the 70mm film is loaded horizontally instead ov vertically allowing for amazing clarity. It's also displayed on a huge curved screen that wraps around the audience.

Well; I love IMAX - love it, love it, love it. ;D I was REALLY looking forward to this. Lucky we got the preview tickets - the night came complete with a talk and question period with the director of the film and 2 fighter pilots: the American F-15C pilot who was the focus of the film and a Canadian CF-18 pilot who has attended Red Flag as well.

I like the pilots - who wouldn't? ;D Both were very nice, modest, very likeable. The film on the other hand....

To be honest; FP: ORF was alright. Good enough for what it is, I suppose - something to show to tourists at the aviation museum. Unfortunately about half way through I found myself wondering just when the Hell the thing would be over.

First of all IMAX really likes promoting itself; so while we're waiting to go into the theatre we were treated to short videos on small TVs about the IMAX and OMNIMAX process. The projection room was visible as well; separated from the waiting area by glass walls. Quite interesting.
After going in and sitting down; there was a brief waiting period while they went through the usual 'Grand Opening' hoo-hah; identifying groups, asking 'who here is a pilot?' etc. (There were quite a number of us; I saw - around 10-15% of the audience.)

Then the film began.

Well, actually it didn't. Hey - I've no problem with IMAX wanting to promote itself; that's business. But it gets slightly annoying when the first 15 minutes is a sound show yabbering on about how great IMAX, the theatre and the sound system is.

And to be honest; that theatre isn't a patch on some of the IMAX theatres I've seen. The magnificent Cinesphere at Ontario Place for instance - a truly superb IMAX venue.
Oh - but this screen was concave - they made a big deal of that. How the perforated aluminum panels fit together seamlessly and invisibly...
Bull. The whole thing looked an enormous dartboard; the separate panels painfully clear. Not only when the screen was clear; but all the way through the film the seams were terribly obvious. (Hell in some spots they even reflected.) The sound system wasn't that hot either - there was some serious distortion in the lower bands.

That screen.... well; I very quickly found myself wondering if the film really was made for a curved screen. The whole thing was terribly distorted - only a small area right in front formed a true image. Very big images - like a C-17 that filled the entire line of sight - were so bad the entire craft looked U-shaped.
The distortion really killed the film. I mean - it's really cool to see an F-15 blasting in from overhead; but I'm pretty sure fighter wings aren't supposed to flap. They really looked like they were flapping - as the aircraft bounced around on the screen their wings bent upwards and downwards like birds' wings - halfway into the film I was getting a bit nauseous.

The film itself was...alright. Some cool flying scenes; neat graphics. A few fighter pilots in key positions; but other central figures too obviously actors - and not great ones at that - that made me oh-so-thankful that we're being protected by such dashing young men with nice haircuts. ::)
I was very glad it didn't take the form so many flight documentaries do nowadays:
(Strong Alabama accent):"The Ayff FiftEEEN Ey-us the Grawyteyst Fahter in the Werld T'Day! The Muurkin Ahr Fahrce the most parfal fahtin' fahrce awn Arth!"
Quite the opposite - the pilot (or rather, the narrator; which I found odd because the actual pilot was a very engaging, well spoken young man) in the film was quite modest and self-effacing; expressing the pleasure and interest at meeting and working with allies from around the world, etc. There were Canadians as well as Brits, Germans and a few others quite well-represented.

It did show quite well that aerial combat is not an ultra-cool; hot-ass dogfight-fest a la 'Top Gun'; but rather an intricate, compex ballet of aircraft, ground systems, support and logistics. It did quite well for the ground crews as well. (IMO you can never say enough about ground crews - one of the most unrecognized but important jobs in the military.)

Cool as the flying scenes were though I started to get a little tired at seeing the same things - S-turn, poop of a bunch of flares. S-turn, poop off a bunch of flares. 3 airplanes S-turning and pooping off a bunch of flares. Over and over and over and over and over and over.......
The flight sequences really had little to do with what was supposed to be happening; just a whole bunch of air- and ground-filmed flybys with lots and lots and lots of flares.

My summary for Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag is therefore:
Film: OK. Worth seein if you're visiting a museum. Better if you've no flight experience.
Theatre: Sucked rocks. Should provide Excedrin with every ticket.

Cheers!

Re: Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:21 pm
by Mobius
Yeah, I saw it a couple of months ago down in San Antonio, and I wasn't really impressed either.  Alot of the scenes were obviously computer generated and that took away from the whole experience a little bit I think.  But there were some pretty interesting parts in it to, like the opening with the F-15 flying low over the river and the part where he is chosen to be the guy they practice CSAR with.  So overall I would agree, it is an enjoyable experience, but I wouldn't expect to go in and learn alot or get a great insight into the "real" life of a fighter pilot.  ;)

Re: Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:25 pm
by Boss_BlueAngels
No offense man, but I skiped 75% of what you wrote. lol



I saw FP down in Vegas last summer... I was somewhat disapointed as well.  Why ON EARTH do these idiots think they have to put in some CRAPILY animated jets in there?  They have the CG jets all over throughout the video, and really took a lot from it I feel.  Can't anyone just show a REAL airplane these days?  Like the freakin shot between the vertical tails... it's so cheesy.  

Anyway, other than that I thought it totally rocked... when they did show the REAL jets.  It was SA-WEET!!

Re: Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:53 pm
by Jakemaster
I saw that in houston.  I thought it was pretty cool, but what I cant wait for is that new Rover Imax!

Re: Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:04 am
by beaky
Sounds like they need to do some tweaking in Toronto; the Omnimax theater at the Liberty Science Center doesn't seem to have the problems you mentioned (although once you've sat through all the "golly, ain't this cool?" fanfare, it's hard to sit through it again).
Haven't seen FR: ORF yet; maybe I'll skip it.
It might look better on a flat Imax screen, who knows?
But I think I'll check out the Rover one.

Re: Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:44 am
by Ivan
Any chance of seeing german MiG-29's or Hind helos in that one?

Re: Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:23 am
by Souichiro
The last time I wen't to  a cinema like that was in Paris, It was on my school trip ... 75% of the students reacted the same...

First we felt ill

Then we fell asleep ;D

Re: Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:58 pm
by Mobius
Yeah, I saw it on a flat screen and there was no distortion or anything, and it looked good, but that didn't make up for the crappy CG stuff, especially the AWACS stuff.

And Ivan, there really isn't and soviet stuff in this as it is during Red Flag, so there might be a few visiting MiG's but I can't remember. ;)

Re: Fighter Pilot: Operation Red Flag

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:55 pm
by Souichiro
Yeah, I saw it on a flat screen and there was no distortion or anything, and it looked good, but that didn't make up for the crappy CG stuff, especially the AWACS stuff.

And Ivan, there really isn't and soviet stuff in this as it is during Red Flag, so there might be a few visiting MiG's but I can't remember. ;)



Germany sent in some Mig-29's a couple of years ago