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JetBlue have landing problems on TV.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:20 pm
by jrpilot
CNN has live video of a Jet Blue a320 having landing gear problems at LGB.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:05 pm
by gn85
Watching now.  Doesn't look like the gear is locked into position.  Obviously it's twisted as well.  

I love listening to all the 'experts' they're interviewing. :)

Naturally, I hope they land safely.  Aviation sure has been in the lime light lately.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:06 pm
by Jared
I believe they are planning for a landing at KLAX since it has a longer runway.

Just saw this too about 40 minutes ago.. ;)

For those who don't get CNN the nose gear on the jet blue flight 292 is turned 90 degree clockwise.. ;)

Main gear is fine....they were loaded to go to New York from I believe Burbank earlier this afternoon.

For some reason airbus didn't put a fuel dump valve on this particular version of the 320 and they have been forced to circle around to burn it off....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:06 pm
by 10_Gs

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:06 pm
by Fly2e
Me too.
It will bel anding live with a "cocked" front wheel assmbly.

WOW!

Dave

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:26 pm
by Jared
What could a guy ask for besides such a nice landing?

Pretty much kept her on the centerline the whole way.. :)

Very well done, everyone safe as always.. :)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:26 pm
by RatherBeFlying
THEY MADE IT!!!



SUCH A SMOOTH LANDING TOO!!




Hats off to the flight crew as well as other personel!!!



;D

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:29 pm
by jrpilot
Perfect landing.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:30 pm
by Fly2e
Amazing!

Finally,..
some good news about a possible tragedy.

Dave

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:32 pm
by Rifleman
Why did they not get everyone out in 30 secs and away from a potential danger  ???............no cooling spray was administered to the front gear upon arrival by the fire suppression vehicles  ???.......I really expected to see the chutes deploy and have all occupants depart in a very hasty manner  ???..........especially in light of the burn which occured recently at YYZ  ???............Airbus vehicle in that episode too.......... ???

To my way of thinking, a very basic safety issue .........this was, after all, an emergency landing ....... ???

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:38 pm
by RatherBeFlying
[quote]Why did they not get everyone out in 30 secs and away from a potential danger

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:41 pm
by Black ZR-1
What runway did they land on.  Anyone know??

http://jetbluelives.ytmnd.com/

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:05 pm
by Jaffa
24L I think.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:58 pm
by Moach
i have a new found respect for airbus, that's some beefty gear strut :o :o :o

i really thought it would have collapsed, specially when the whole thing turned into a fireball :o :o :o :o :o


that was some flight crew the had there, truly amazing to watch how they eased the nose wheel onto the runway

hats off, indeed


:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Moach

PS:  :o

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:54 pm
by Foxtrot Sport
-There wasn't any fire on the nose gear, so there problably isn't any reason to apply any suppressant anywhere.  (They essentialy made a normal landing)

Okay, having watched the video numerous times now, and watching it live and seeing it unfold over the hours it took from when it was started to be Broadcasted to when the thing landed, I've noticed a few key points.

-One, for a Gear malfunction, this wasn't as bad as it could've been.  Let's say the gear were at a 45 degree angle as opposed to 90, that would have been disastrous in trying to keep the plane straight

-Two, after watching the flames on the wheels and what affected them, I've found that when the plane actually touched the nose down, the nose was a few yards to the left of centerline.  When the plane drifted off to the right, when the front gear hit paint, that's when the flames erupted.  I figured that the flames were just caused because the tires had worn completely down and the plane was on aluminum.  BUT, having watched it again, I noticed that everytime the tires went over the centerline, the flames grew, then went down, then grew, then went down, as the plane hit each line.  Is this known that the paint will do that?  Just a thought.

-And third, having watching the video countless times already, I've noticed one thing else, the pilot had control of the rudder on the ground.  Once the plane touched down, it was left of the centerline, then it drifted right, past the center, or nearly there, and then ended up on the other side, it certainly looked as if he had control.

After all, this was a nerve-racking event, but it was somewhat over-hyped, of course, having the main news stations notifyed about the plane live was a deterrent, but it's still getting a lot of coverage.  The pilot made a great landing, and couldn't have set the plane down softer.  No one was killed and that's what's important  ;).

-HF