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A400M

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:28 am
by Theis
The new airbus A400M is Airbus latest answer to the Hercules

http://www.airbusmilitary.com/home.html
Cool!
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Can you see missiles?
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Smokey!
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woow!
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This Cockpit is AWESOME!!
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Cheers Theis

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:49 am
by Ivan
copy paste pot ketlle.

An-70 -> An-7x german project -> Airbus A400.

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:52 am
by jrpilot
Doesn't look like an Airbus cockpit...

I personally don't see this becoming a big seller since most people who want the Hercules already have it...and the cost to design and manifacture the A400M will be high.

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:22 am
by Sytse
Nice pics though... I'd love to fly that beast once...

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:24 am
by C
Doesn't look like an Airbus cockpit...

I personally don't see this becoming a big seller since most people who want the Hercules already have it...and the cost to design and manifacture the A400M will be high.


They've already got several major orders. It'll be a viable alternative to the limited capability of the Herc (due to its internal dimensions) and the very expensive C-17 (how many airforces have been able to afford that?). Completely new airframe, modern avionics, new engines: shouldn't be too bad...

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:41 am
by Craig.

They've already got several major orders. It'll be a viable alternative to the limited capability of the Herc (due to its internal dimensions) and the very expensive C-17 (how many airforces have been able to afford that?). Completely new airframe, modern avionics, new engines: shouldn't be too bad...

What Charlie said. This isnt a new idea, they have been designing it for quiet a few years now, and will be very sucessful. As Charlie said, its a very good inbetween of the C17 and Herc. Looks like an Airbus cockpit to me, the screens are a little bigger for military requirements, but the same standard layout and side-stick.
As for it being a copy of some antanov or whatever, maybe, but its also a basic copy of the C130 which is god knows how old. No point going down that road, as the designs for such transports will be pretty much the same, as its the best method. High wing 4 prop. change the tail a little there ya go.

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:55 am
by FLYING_TRUCKER
Nice looking piece of kit Theis ;)

Sorry I can't purchase one...it will land on my strip but won't fit in my hangar. ::)

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:43 pm
by Ivan
Swept wing, 4x 10000HP turboprops, as fast as a C17 and probably better short runway performance (no spinup time)

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:56 am
by Boss_BlueAngels
just FYI... in that 2nd pic it's firing off flares.  

As for takeoff performance being better than a C-17... probably, but for a jet that huge, the '17 deserves some serious respect.  Those blown' flaps really increase the performance a lot.  

If I'm not mistaken (correct me if I am wrong) the '17 can also operate out of a 3,000 foot strip.

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:24 am
by C
[quote]just FYI... in that 2nd pic it's firing off flares.

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:17 pm
by Felix/FFDS
Crumbso, for shame!  How DARE you presume that Airbus would stoop so low as to copy a concept?

Re: A400M

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:29 am
by ATI_7500
The An-70 would have been the cheaper and better looking solution, but I'm not sure whether the maintenance costs are lower than those of the A400 (because of the counter-rotating props).
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The 'pit:
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Re: A400M

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:08 am
by Ivan
Antonnov has even more SHP output... 13500HP or so (and that is a fuel flow limit, the engine easyly does 15000-16000HP)