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Panel lights on modern aircrafts

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:45 pm
by llavalle
Hi all.. I've just started to pilot at night and was very surprised to see that the C172N I pilot does not have any lights in the instruments... only a red lamp over your head.

I was wondering.. is it because it's an old model(70-80)... or if that is the case with most of GA aircrafts(Piper, Beech, etc)

thx!

Re: Panel lights on modern aircrafts

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:56 pm
by beefhole
The 2001 172s at my school do have instrument lighting ;) (all I can tell you)

Most newer models, I would take a gander that it's because they're older models.

Re: Panel lights on modern aircrafts

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:02 pm
by Brett_Henderson
The three 172s I fly have three different panel lighting systems (or have been "club-mechanic" mutated).

The 172N has regular back-lighting, like most cars, for the engine and fuel gauges.. post lighting for everything else..

Re: Panel lights on modern aircrafts

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:52 pm
by FLYING_TRUCKER
Hi Ilavalle :)

Interesting question.

Having owned a good number of aeroplanes over the years and flown many different types here is what I know.

Most DeHaviland products like the DHC-1, DHC-2, DHC-3 and so on used two red bulbs at the bottom of each instrument.  They could be dimmed or regulated by turning a knob.
Aircraft like the DC3, DC4 and DC6 were also the same.
Some aircraft like the C130 have multi-colored lighting which also includes white lighting.
On any aeroplane I flew the radio, nav station and engineers station were all separate lighting systems.
On aeroplanes requiring two pilots each pilot could control the lighting on his flying instruments.
Aircraft like the Cessna 337 had red, blue or white lighting depending I think on the year and to who the aircraft was being used by, such and the United States Military, a commercial operator or for general aviation use.
I owned a C337 with blue lighting however I flew a commercial one which had white and red lighting.  I have had several C172s with different lighting systems as well.  I have had the red lighting with the control in the ceiling and I have had individual instrument lighting.
When you purchase a new aircraft today it is a considerable investment, you sit down with the sales department and basically tell them what you want.  
I myself prefer manual flaps on the C172 over electric flaps and that is what I ordered.  
It is like ordering your first new car, have the manufacturer install the options you want, it will probably be cheaper in the long run.
Oh and yes one can have lighting systems changed, just like upgrading radio and nav equipment.  It all costs money but it can be done.

Good luck on your night flying you will find it quite enjoyable. :)

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Re: Panel lights on modern aircrafts

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:46 pm
by llavalle
Thx for the answer..

I myself prefer manual flaps on the C172 over electric flaps and that is what I ordered.  



I've never seen a manual flap level on a C172... how does it look like??? (Probably like a manual flap level on a Van's RV... similar to a handbrake in a car)

Thx!

Re: Panel lights on modern aircrafts

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:51 pm
by FLYING_TRUCKER
Well Ilavalle it is in the same position as a hand brake on a newer car, between the two front seats.

On my Cessna 172 I have 40 degrees of flaps I can use.

So each notch I pull the handle up is 10 degrees.

What I like about manual flaps is I can drop them settling the aircraft on the mains faster, giving me quicker braking on a short field than what electric flaps will do.  Now I am not sure about the newer electric flaps, maybe they are quicker.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug