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The times they are a changin'...

Posted:
Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:58 pm
by Wing Nut
The last F-16 has been delivered to the Air Force. I could cry right now...
Story Here
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:09 am
by chomp_rock
Oh well, it was a good fighter but is becoming obsolete. It can't even supercruise, as is the new hot trait for fighters.
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:11 am
by C
[quote]The last F-16 has been delivered to the Air Force.
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:25 am
by Woodlouse2002
It can't even supercruise, as is the new hot trait for fighters.
Supercruise... New.... Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.
Ahem. EE Lightning.

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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:27 am
by Wing Nut
Not to sound like a dweeb, but what is 'Supercruise?" ???
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:44 am
by C
The ability to cruise at supersonic speeds without the need to use afterburners I believe...
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:41 am
by Rifleman
[quote]Not to sound like a dweeb, but what is 'Supercruise?"
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:01 am
by C
Something, I believe, that Concorde used for yrs......

Concorde did have the advantage of not carrying several thousand lbs of drag causing stores hanging under the wings...

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Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:03 pm
by Mobius
They are still planning on updating the existing F-16s so they still have some life left in them at least. In the article it said those F-16s had the helmet mounted cueing system, how many other aircraft use this? I didn't think the US was using it yet. I knew that MiG-29 pilots can use it and some others, I just didn't know who.
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:35 pm
by Ben_M_K
Yeah Supercruise is cruising at supersonic speeds without the afterburners, as stated by some other members. The F/A-22 will use supercruise...

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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:35 pm
by Woodlouse2002
[quote]
Something, I believe, that Concorde used for yrs......

.....Oh, ....I get it now........first we let the civilians use it for a quarter of a century, then once its proven, we can allow the military to test it for suitability.........

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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:38 pm
by C
[quote]They are still planning on updating the existing F-16s so they still have some life left in them at least.
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:41 pm
by GunnerMan
Well I guess we need to phase it out, need to keep up with the terrorists you know, they just got a set of hangliders equiped with 2 3mm BB guns with a maximum range of 100 feet.
Yeah I do like the F-16 looks so damn sleek.
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Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:22 pm
by Rifleman
Concorde did have the advantage of not carrying several thousand lbs of drag causing stores hanging under the wings...

....and neither does the F-22....stores are internal.....

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Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:19 am
by C
....and neither does the F-22....stores are internal.....

..and hence its ability to supercruise.

Having said that, when it comes into service as the F/A-22 we're probably going to see it with at least one pair of underwing pylons... The Typhoon will be the same. I imagine if the F/A-18 Super Hornet could too if the pylons were removed...
