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The A350?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:43 pm
by jrpilot
Does anyone know what the A350 is???...I imagine it is an Airbus but the only new Airbus that I know of is the A380?


Thanks

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:51 pm
by Craig.
Its airbus response to the 7E7, an aircraft only 5 months ago, they said they wernt slightly worried about ::) It's going to basically be a shortend A330 with new wings and engines. Right now they are not going with the bleedless engines unlike Boeing who are, and on paper what facts airbus have given, seem to suggest this plane is being rushed into the competition, to compete with a plane that i dont honestly see it being able to compete with. Airbus are taking a huge gamble on the A380 which still hasnt flown yet, and if that turns out to be a bust you can bet the funding for the A350 will be reduced

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:53 pm
by Ben_M_K
Well said Craig. I don't know where Airbus will be in about 5 years but it will be interesting to watch. I can't wait to see if the A380 will even fly. ::)

I don't see why Airbus is saying this is a totally new aircraft. Its the same is the A330 and I think if I saw one at the airport I would'nt know it wasnt an A330.

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:32 am
by jrpilot
I have also heard that the A321 was pretty bad on the Airbus market...

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:34 am
by C
Well said Craig. I don't know where Airbus will be in about 5 years but it will be interesting to watch. I can't wait to see if the A380 will even fly. ::)


It will, probably in April or so 2005, expect to see the prototype coming out the paintshop in its house colours very soon...


I don't see why Airbus is saying this is a totally new aircraft. Its the same is the A330 and I think if I saw one at the airport I would'nt know it wasnt an A330.


You probably wouldn't, but with completely new wings fuselage sections and the same generation engines as the 7E7 performance should be increased markedly over any standard variation. I see it as common sense - why develop a completely new aircraft when you can adapt an existing design...

Charlie

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:58 am
by Hagar
Why all the animosity towards Airbus? Anyone would think you all work for Boeing. Monopolies were never a good thing. A little competition is good for the industry & helps keep the opposition on its toes.

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:06 am
by Woodlouse2002
They're all just a little worried at a european company building better aircraft than Boeing. ::) ;D

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:35 am
by jrpilot
They're all just a little worried at a european company building better aircraft than Boeing. ::) ;D



Wrong!!!....I love Airbus....I love Boeing...I love Canadian Regional Jets...I love all aircrafts with JETS

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:55 am
by Ben_M_K
It will, probably in April or so 2005, expect to see the prototype coming out the paintshop in its house colours very soon...


Charlie,

I was just stating that it will be interesting to watch the progress of Airbus over the next 5 years. You know, seeing what airlines buy threre new AC and such.

I really think Boeing will still be the leader in 10 years. With the 787, they're looking pretty good right now. Just my opinion.

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:15 am
by Woodlouse2002
What people are saying about the A380 is exactly the same as what people were saying about the 747 before that was launched. It will not be the downfall of Airbus and will probably be about as interesting to watch as a patch of wet paint, just like the progress of the 777 and all the other airliners.

You're all getting overly excited about the 787 which is bearly off the drawing board yet and your saying that it will ruin airbus and it's A380 purely because it's a Boeing. The 787 isn't even in the same class as the A380. It might rival some of the smaller Airbusses, but the only competition for the A380 is going to be the 747.

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:53 am
by Craig.
Urgh here we go. Professor Craig. Firstly, my dislike of airbus comes from the fact they gave my dad a job then a few days before he was to start they took it away giving some bogus reason.
Now to the technical side. The 7E7 is designed not to compete with anything, however its designed to replace many current aircraft. Early 767's 757's and even some of the older 777's. Its also designed to replace the A300, early A330's and A340's this is why the 7E7 is going to be a big seller. The A350 currently isnt using the 7E7's engine technology, they have sacrificed this because of the fact its still an A330. However with there being 6 years till final production its still possible they might. As for the A380, i dont like it, why? i just dont Airbus have already stated its well over budget and its been suffering from weight problems for a while. Their original prediction of bars and weight rooms and swimming pools on board was stupid at the time and even more stupid now they know it cant happen. Its a very specific market that it will be in and i think airbus have spent too much money to enter such a selective area. I like their Planes, well the A330 at least, i didnt like the A320 which was awfully noisey. However i still think the 777 is the best plane from a passengers perspective, its spacious comfortable and very quiet. Still niether can compete with the DC10:)

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:07 am
by Hagar
Time will tell. It's the airlines that will have the final decision as they purchase & operate the aircraft. These are only transport aircraft you're talking about, pieces of machinery designed to carry paying passengers from one place to another. The passengers couldn't care less who makes them providing they get where they want to go, safely, in reasonable comfort, at the time they want to be there & usually at the lowest possible cost. ;)

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:13 am
by Craig.
Agreed, I find it funny how some people over at Anet get upset that the design of the planes changing and how they wont fly on it because it(7E7) doesnt look how it did in the first artistic impressions. They are saying it wont sell aswell because it looks like every other aircraft, they dont realise airlines couldnt give a hoot about what a plane looks like, nor could the general flying public. These so called enthusiasts make up maybe 10% at most of the the flying public, and their opinions on designs count as much as scruffy the janitor at boeing:)

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:25 pm
by Ben_M_K
LOL Yeah thats funny Craig. I never thought about it that way.

Re: The A350?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:12 pm
by Hai Perso Coyone?
honestly. is everyone here anti-airbus? well heres the plain truth i hate boeing. i simply love Airbus. as far as the A380 is concerned i hope it flies well and successfully. as far as the 7E7 i think its a waste of money. and the A350 i have no idea why airbus thought of such a crude idea for a competetion.

ashar

PS: i wasnt being rude or anything when i said i dont like Boeing. i really dont like em