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Kai Tak??

Postby Ben_M_K » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:00 am

Hi there. Why did they say that Kai Tak was the hardest airport to land on? I was just wondering.
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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby Felix/FFDS » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:27 am

While I haven't tried it (heck - for me, even Meigs is a "difficult approach"), one of the reasons is the "checkerboard hill" .

When landing from the land side, the land rises sharply.  Aircraft have to come in parallel to the mountain range, slowing down, "dirty" and then make a 90-degree turn.

It's not "that" bad with a smaller airplane - but coming in after 8-9 hours of flight in a 747, well.... let's say that with the winds coming in from the sea, and swirling around the mountains ... there have been some interesting videos of 747s swerving as they land, engine pods scraping, etc.  Not to mention, of course, that if you run out of runway, you suddenly have a boat...that doesn't float too well.
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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby ozzy72 » Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:39 am

Take a look at the real Kai Tak on the net (plenty of photos out there), you are literally flying between the buildings and doing with a 747 what would give a naval aviator a nervous breakdown in the landing stakes (no tailhook or arrestor cables!).
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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby logjam » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:11 pm

Well put Ozzy, just ask me for my story one day!  :'(
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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby Felix/FFDS » Thu Dec 16, 2004 9:54 pm

[quote]Well put Ozzy, just ask me for my story one day!
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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby Craig. » Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:42 pm

Flaps? What are flaps ;D
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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby forfun » Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:08 pm

Hey thanks guys, i didnt even knowyou could fly Kai Tak in FS9 LOL ;D
Now if something goes without saying, then why do people say it??

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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby Ben_M_K » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:16 pm

One more question...

What is the ''checkerboard approach''?
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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby eno » Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:40 am

The checkerboard approach is the overland approach. You fly towards a Red and White checkerboard on the side of a hill and turn at the last minute onto the runway heading. Hence the pictures of 747s landing sideways .... on one wheel etc etc etc.
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Re: Kai Tak??

Postby Hagar » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:47 am

This is Checkerboard Hill.
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Here's a couple of the landings Eno mentioned.
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