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I remeber watching the Spanish station here, which is the only station that gives real news...

English
Kobe is due for court today...

Spanish
Earthquake hits Turkey today...

And they had one of those last comments before signing off, and quite interestng it was!  I think it was Spain, but there's an airport somewhere where a runway and a pedestrian/auto road perpendicular-ly intersect each other.  I think it's even an AFB!  They had shots of it, and apparently it's quite normal.  Just one of those little toll-booth-like bars that swing down.  It was kind of strange to see people on TV watching 747's and T-38's taking off and landing with smiling, if unexcited faces!

I have to ask myself why I'm still living in Houston... (AKA Itchy Island: Home of the Nuclear Mosquitoes!)

This used to be quite normal in the UK some years ago. I remember a similar arrangement on the main runway at RAF Tangmere or RNAS Ford (maybe it was both) before they were closed down in the late 1960s. As the latest service types operated from both airfields I never minded waiting.

I could be wrong but think that RNAS Ford (HMS Peregrine) had the longest runway in the UK at one time. Part of it is now an open prison & the runway has long since disappeared. RAF Tangmere officially closed for good in 1970 & reverted to farmland.

I could be wrong but think that RNAS Ford (HMS Peregrine) had the longest runway in the UK at one time. Part of it is now an open prison & the runway has long since disappeared. RAF Tangmere officially closed for good in 1970 & reverted to farmland.

I think you may be wrong there Hagar. Heathrow has the longest runway in England. And before that the longest runway was Stornoway. Maybe before the war...

You're probably correct. Mind you, I was thinking of the days when Heathrow was nothing more than a grass strip. I suppose you wouldn't remember that.

Funny you should say that..... It might have been a little before my time...

the airport in question wasnt gibralta was it?

That's the only airport I can think of Craig.
Looks kinda funny though

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/581455/L/

OMG! ! Can just imagine it :
Gibralta tower, this is speedbird.............. ready for straight-out depature. (or whatever)

Speedbird.............. hold short, caution the Ford Mustang, Opel Astra etc... on the runway! !

[glb]Thanx. Carl[/glb]

Errrm. It's Gibraltar chaps.

The roads around here never looked like that, even now.

I'll try and find some of my Gib tour photos. I've got shots of both halves of the runway, from the middle of the main road

I think you may be wrong there Hagar. Heathrow has the longest runway in England. And before that the longest runway was Stornoway. Maybe before the war...

I thought Elvington near York has the longest runway, I may be wrong, I will look it up tomorrow. Regards Chris

Manston has the longest civilian (i think) definately the widest though.

However:

"Machrihanish / Scotland boasts the longest runway in Europe (3.2 miles) and the entire surface of the runway is painted four times a year, to match the surrounding undergrowth. Apparently these are parts of Scotland where people just never visit because access is so difficult. Machrihanish would be an ideal spot from which to operate aircraft technology that the Government wanted to keep secret!!!!!!"

"The massive runway length is necessary so it can be used as an Emergency Airfield Over-flow (EAOF) site. It is one of the few runways in Britain that can cope with any aircraft landing with technical problems, including the Russian Bear and the P3 Orions of the Royal Norwegian Air force."

Currently the Station is under enhanced care and maintenance status. hmm

Thanks go to the Airliners.net forums for this info.

[glb]Thanx. Carl[/glb]

That's the only airport I can think of Craig.
Looks kinda funny though

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/581455/L/

I'm glad I don't live there. I thought big trucks were the ones causing traffic problems.

Wouldn't it make more sense to tunnle the road under the runway? There are people walking right across the runway. If the US saw that, they'd gave a bird.

Machrihanish ... designated Campbeltown in FS. Was up untill a few years ago a US base..... and probably still is in some form ... As was said in a previous post it is kept in working order mostly for emergancies and during a time of war would be used for B52's and other large aircraft.
 
However it is also home to one of the major Nav Aids for the North Atlantic. A point which was forceably pointed out to the CO of the base about 12 years ago by a friend of mine. My friend works for the CAA (Civil Aviation Authority), a branch of the MOD (Ministry of Defence) which is responcible for all Nav Aids and Civilian Radar installations in the UK.

His responsibity is keeping Nav Aids and Radio installations in working order in Scotland ... Based in Glasgow he, along with his colleagues, has to be on 24 hour call out 15-20 times a year ... these call out periods last for a week. On one such week he was called at 5am by Prestwick ATC... Aircraft heading across the North Atlantic were reporting a +/- 10degree variation in one of the beacons, not a major problem, as other systems on the aircraft could keep them on course, but none the less in an emegency this could be significant. He was dispatched to the site, Machrihanish.

He arrived some 3 hours later and was stopped at the gate by a GI with attitude. The GI was dispatched to contact the CO, who had to let my friend in as it was MOD property and he had full clearence anyway. He was let in and in the process found out that there was a major excersise going on.
He made his way to the hut that housed the Nav Aid, called Prestwick to say he was going to switch it off and plugged in his test equipment.. sure enough there was the variation every 5- 10 seconds. He checked all systems and couldnt find anything faulty... he ran more tests .... still nothing .... he then decided to go to his van and ponder the situation over a cuppa and make some calls to see if anyone else had come across this particular problem.
Whilst sat in his van pondering he noticed something unusual on top of the hut and got out to investigate. Upon walking round the opposite side of the hut he found a GI perched on the roof but underneath the now turned off mast. Every 5-10 seconds he would swing his rifle across his arc of fire. My mate shouted for him to get down and tried to explain the situation but just got the finger for his troubles.
A call was made to Prestwick letting them know the situation and informing them the they would have to contact the base to get this guy down. They would also have to inform any aircraft  that the becon was going to be off for significantly longer than antisipated.
An hour or so later an officer arrived and tried to give my mate a bollocking ... the situation was only diffused when my mate in his usual genteel fashion pointed out to the officer that his guy was sat in the middle of a rather large microwave oven and, that if he wasnt got down then the mast was going to be turned back on and he would be left to cook slowly from the inside out.
Did he want the lawsuits A.from the GI's family and B. if an aircraft strayed off course because this becon wasn't operating properly and subsiquently crashed?
The GI was brought back down rather fast .... My mate tested the equipment ... no faults ... no variations so he switched it back on and headed for home....
It was only when he got to the gate house, on the way back out, that he was informed that no one had ever managed to get the CO to change his mind... let alone a civilian.

sorry that was so long ... but a story worth telling on occasion I think.

cheers
eno

ENO
I read your post of  Jul 10th, 2004    on the Macrihanish NavAid problem with interest: would your friend recall whether there was a transportable (UHF) TACAN placed temporarily at the helipad near the Mull lighthouse at the beginning of June 1994?
If so, what frequency/channel was used for it?
Would he know how often mil helos crossing from NI turned close in to the lighthouse and then up the coast?
(Yes, it is to do with that Chinook crash.)
Cheers