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In FS9, I like to start trips from Schiphol airport(eham), Amsterdam, since I live in Amsterdam. I land there too, and all that in GA aircraft like the Baron, Lancair Legacy. Schiphol is a large international airport, so I was wondering is this is realistic. Would they, under normal circumstances, let me mix in with the big guys with my slow and small private aircraft , or would the say "sorry, too busy, go to a local airport :-/"? Does a real pilot have the answer to this?

Gerwin

Hi Gerwin
              I can only speek of my local airport Leeds/Bradford International, this has two flying schools operating from it as well as a lo-cost airline, plus all the other traffic. Hope this helps Chris

Hi Gerwin,

    Where did you get a Lancair Legacy?

[quote]Hi Gerwin,

[quote]Hi Gerwin

memphis international has a flight school thats pretty busy. i believe Logan also has one. so i would imagine others do to

Most airports in the US allow ALL aircraft to land. Newark and Washington National are two exceptions that come to mind. These airports do not allow FAR pt 91&135 (general aviation/private charter)operations. BUT this rule means no jets, such as a Lear or Gulfstream, as well as no Cessnas.

A good indicator as to whether an airport is G/A friendly, is to look at the runways that it offers. Boston Logan is probably the busiest airport I have ever seen, with the exception of possibly Heathrow. If you look at an airport diagram for Boston, they offer runway 33R/15L for use. It is a 2,500 foot runway. There's only a certain type of airplane that will use a runway THAT short. And if you go to Signature Boston(private aircraft parking), you will see many single engine, piston powered aircraft.
Exceptance of "the little guys" in the US is dependant more on local government, and the existance of "satellite" airports, than any hard rules. If there is not another option(re:smaller airports), a large airport may have no choice.

when you want to land your small prop at Schiphol, they probably let you take the short runway at Schiphol Oost. i'm not sure if you are allowed to land the bigger runways (like the Kaagbaan)...perhaps when you are running out of fuel...maybe but i'm not sure.

a few weeks back a Cessna 172 was crossing the final of a runway at EBBR...he was in the CTR of Brussels Intl but without having contact. now that's not allowed!  ;)

I think OTTOL summed it up pretty well, Im sure if the ATC really didnt want you to land, they would just put you out in the holding pattern until you decide to go to another local airport

In the US you can take your little plane to any airport if you can stand the lanfding fee.  There is no prohibition at any of the airports mentioned before unless they are since 9/11.  There is also NO flight school at logan Intl in BOS, I doubt here is one at BNA either.  

I have flown singles into the 3 big NY  airports JFK, LGA, EWR the controllers have a plan for such a/c and as long as there isn't a gaggle of them there is not usually a problem.  They normally won't land you on the "active" runway because of the speed difference but they will find a way to work you in.
I'm not sure how they handle GA in Europe.
Scott

36/18 at O'hare is 5000 feet.

.  I can't see O'hare, which I believe is the third busiest airport in the world, letting a small Cessna or something disrupt what must be an extremely complicated ballet of movement.  So they have one runway that is no where near the routes of the big planes just for the little guys...

I think we're playing Tennis with TWO questions now.
-Yes you can Legally land a small, low cruise speed, single engine aircraft at ANY civil airport in the U.S.(with the exception of two previously mentioned).
-Will ATC allow you to do so? Workload permitting, and the prevailing attitude at the controlling authority involved are the only two factors that may dictate otherwise. Remember, in a Class B, authorization must first be given to enter the airspace, and in Class C radio communication must be established, BUT it's not uncommon to hear " REMAIN CLEAR OF THE CLASS CHARLIE AIRSPACE".

Also, don't be misled just because an airport has the "International" designation....not all of them are exactly major traffic hubs. I've operated in and out of several "International" airports (and in Cessna 152's actually) that didn't even have a control tower!

EHAM has the small stuff landing on RW22-RW4, the old main runway of schiphol.
Touchdown is somewhere in the middle, as you aren't allowed to fly through the ILS corridor of one of the east-west runways which crosses the flightpath

I heard from one of my flight instructors that if you go on approach at Brisbane Intl you will get cahrged even if you declare a missed approach.