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Jet Trails

Posted:
Wed Jun 25, 2003 6:28 pm
by zcottovision
What exactly are the jet trails that we all see up in the sky left by big jets?
I ask because I was watching the progress of what might have been a 767/777 out of my window today. The trails would run for a few miles, and then stop, and then about a few miles later, they would start again. Why would this be?
Re: Jet Trails

Posted:
Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:11 pm
by N505AF
There water vapor
Re: Jet Trails

Posted:
Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:25 pm
by zcottovision
OK....and how do they get there? Are they like exhaust gases from the engine, and can the pilot turn them on/off?
Re: Jet Trails

Posted:
Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:19 pm
by SilverFox441
Contrails form based on the water content of the air and it's temperature. That's why they sometimes start and stop...the air changes temp or water content.
Contrails form when the water vapour in the exhaust recondenses as it cools.
Re: Jet Trails

Posted:
Sat Jun 28, 2003 5:26 am
by Ivan
Is it possible to make engines which have very small or no contrails...
it's said the MiG-25 doesn't make contrails
Re: Jet Trails

Posted:
Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:04 am
by Woodlouse2002
Stealh aircraft don't leave vapour trails. Some thing to do with the jet nozzles and letting the water recondense before it leaves the aircraft I think. Although i'm probably wrong.
Re: Jet Trails

Posted:
Sat Jun 28, 2003 12:04 pm
by loomex
Stealh aircraft don't leave vapour trails. Some thing to do with the jet nozzles and letting the water recondense before it leaves the aircraft I think. Although i'm probably wrong.
You are very close. Both the F-117 and B-2 have the exhaust coming out over the top of the aircraft. This serves two purposes. The exhuast is not easily seen from the ground and both aircraft have some sort of heat absorbing material to cool the air( like the space shuttle). I read that the B-2 also has a system that injects a coolent into the exhuast. I am not sure of this, but it sound like a good idea
Re: Jet Trails

Posted:
Sat Jun 28, 2003 1:13 pm
by Ivan
The F-117 has cold air intakes just before the exhaust, and the exhaust is tilted somewhat upward, probably giving the exhaust air some extra time to cool down.