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This could have been nasty. Cowlings come off from time to time, but both together and then one engine in flames. It hurts to say, but I have a feeling that maintenance dropped the ball in a big way today..................

http://avherald.com/h?article=462beb5e&opt=0

Matt

If that's the case..

It just goes to show that the airline passengers rely just as much on the professionalism and dedication of the Maintenance Crew, as they do on the Pilots flying the aircraft!

Paul.... ...!

Fozzer wrote:If that's the case..

It just goes to show that the airline passengers rely just as much on the professionalism and dedication of the Maintenance Crew, as they do on the Pilots flying the aircraft!

Paul.... ...!

They certainly do. I have been spannering now for 26 years on aircraft. I am a licensed engineer on 737NG, Dash8-Q400 and the A318/19/20/21. You may well ask how this sort of thing happens. Well, I could give you a dozen reasons why it happens;

http://aviationknowledge.wikidot.com/av ... irty-dozen

http://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/The_ ... y_Dozen%22

One of these WILL be the reason, there is no getting away from it.

This is why every two years I and anyone else who holds an AML (Aircraft Maintenance License) has to do a Human Factors course (with test) no pass, no chit and your license is then invalid until you have passed. Two chances at the refresher and then you have to do the main course again.

However, this does not get around that someone woke up after night shift this morning, switched on the TV. Shorty there after his bowls probably evacuated..............................

Matt

Hey Matt, thanks for the trip down memory lane! I didn't know the "Dirty Dozen" were still with us. We had them posted all over our hangar when I was in E-2C squadrons back in the last quarter of the last century. But we were sort of cold blooded about their use. The problem with stationary posters is after a while they become just another little noticed part of the wall they're posted on. Try this experiment... the next time someone is near one of the posters ask him which one it is and what it says without looking at it. We got around that problem rather harshly. Whenever someone committed one of the "Dirty Dozen" the squadron Safety Officer would put his name and the date on the appropriate poster. You'd be surprised how much attention was generated by this nasty deed but safety awareness also increased.


Hawk

Hawkeye07 wrote:Hey Matt, thanks for the trip down memory lane! I didn't know the "Dirty Dozen" were still with us. We had them posted all over our hangar when I was in E-2C squadrons back in the last quarter of the last century. But we were sort of cold blooded about their use. The problem with stationary posters is after a while they become just another little noticed part of the wall they're posted on. Try this experiment... the next time someone is near one of the posters ask him which one it is and what it says without looking at it. We got around that problem rather harshly. Whenever someone committed one of the "Dirty Dozen" the squadron Safety Officer would put his name and the date on the appropriate poster. You'd be surprised how much attention was generated by this nasty deed but safety awareness also increased.


Hawk

Most people say they are very much a 90's thing, but try and find a single error, accident or cock-up where one of them does not raise it's head.

Matt

"Most people say they are very much a 90's thing, but try and find a single error, accident or cock-up where one of them does not raise it's head."

Matt

Isn't that the absolute unblemished truth!

expat wrote:


This is why every two years I and anyone else who holds an AML (Aircraft Maintenance License) has to do a Human Factors course (with test) no pass, no chit and your license is then invalid until you have passed. Two chances at the refresher and then you have to do the main course again.

A damn good thing, although I'm sure it's no fun for you!
The illustration for #12 of the "dirty dozen" reminded me immediately of this disaster... almost 300 dead, including two on the ground, because someone got a little too clever, and nobody saw the harm in it (or at least nobody had the guts to blow the whistle on it). Amazing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191

beaky wrote:

expat wrote:


This is why every two years I and anyone else who holds an AML (Aircraft Maintenance License) has to do a Human Factors course (with test) no pass, no chit and your license is then invalid until you have passed. Two chances at the refresher and then you have to do the main course again.

A damn good thing, although I'm sure it's no fun for you!
The illustration for #12 of the "dirty dozen" reminded me immediately of this disaster... almost 300 dead, including two on the ground, because someone got a little too clever, and nobody saw the harm in it (or at least nobody had the guts to blow the whistle on it). Amazing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191

Blimey!....

That was a devastating, early-morning read!

Paul.