A stark lesson....

[Fozzer]

...in "Density Altitude"...>>>

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/pl ... de_cockpit

Learnt the hard way!...

Paul.

[DaveSims]

This is the entire video from takeoff.  It is apparent before they even get off the ground they are way overloaded for the altitude. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDu0jYiz-v8

Here is a video of another crash under similar circumstances.  In this video, unfortunately they did not survive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_8AHC9X ... re=related

[wifesaysno]

We were just looking at that video at work. I cant believe the pilot went ahead after such a long take off roll.

[beaky]

No, no, guys... it was a downdraft!

Forget that he used up almost a mile to get airborne, failed in his first attempt to then get out of ground effect, then continued towards higher terrain and tall trees, all the while yanking back on the yoke over and over (which did not help the airplane climb in the slightest)... it was a downdraft that forced them into the trees (and dang, those trees just came out of nowhere, dontcha know!).

[DaveSims]

Notice it was the passenger that mentions a downdraft.  If you pay attention, you will realize what that it actually was a stall.  Most non pilot passengers would probaby characterize the sudden drop from a stall as a downdraft.

Dave...flat lander for life!

[beaky]

[quote]Notice it was the passenger that mentions a downdraft.

[Fozzer]

Density Altitude.... :o...!

Always a good reminder for me when Sim flying in and out of Big Bear City Airfield (L35), (Southern California), high up in the San Bernardino Mountains, in my little Cessna 150 when touring Southern California!....>>>

http://www.bigbearcityairport.com/mouta ... you-think/

That climb over the towering San Bernardino mountain range from the Los Angeles valley, on approach, and take-off, always involves a tightly clenched Bum, a prayer (or three), and judicious use of the Mixture Control to achieve as much power as possible!

An excellent Sim test under varying atmospheric conditions!

Paul...survived...so far!... ...!

..remember..you can always abandon the flight... ...!

[Bud Greene]

I'm guessing the pilot was 'George of the Jungle' and he overloaded the plane with his elephant Shep.
Watch out for that treeeeeeeee!
NOTE: Had anyone perished I would NOT be poking fun.

[Fozzer]

Small, General Aviation, piston prop aircraft, can be tricky little creatures, under certain conditions, and can easily catch-out the unwary!
Their simplicity can be misleading!

The "Mixture" control system works very well in FS 2004 when used correctly, but I miss the realistic Carburettor Heat" effects, replicating Carburettor Icing problems, when fitted.

Paul.