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whats the term? RE: Apache

Postby Craig. » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:18 pm

Simple really, whats the term for the way the pilots use their eyes seperatly? one to see where their going the other to use keep an eye on the instruments.
I know it has a specific term I just cant think of it.
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby RitterKreuz » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:09 pm

hahaha never heard of such a thing... ill sit back and watch this thread in preparation to learn something new today.

Only thing i can think of is an eye patch... keeps one eye accustomed to the dim interior lighting while the other eye is adjusted for the darkness of the exterior. when you need good night vision... dim the lights all the way to dark and move the eye patch to the other eye.

now your previously eye patched eye will be able to see in the dark to a much greater extent than the other eye.

is this what your talking about?
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby Mobius » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:11 pm

:-? Sounds like a fancy trick, but I've never heard of it. ;)
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby Chris_F » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:14 pm

I think either "wall eyed" or "drunk".  :)
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby Craig. » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:38 pm

lol,
Basically the pilot uses an eye piece with his right eye I believe. This displays the outside world through whatever method I believe its infra-red, which allows him in bad weather and at night to keep his head firmly planted inside the cockpit without the worry of not actually being able to see outside. Then he uses his left eye to monitor and keep watch on the various systems.
One of my dads mates is the chief test pilot for the uk apache program, he told me it was like reading a book with your left eye while watching tv with the other, and your brain being able to process both so it seems like your doing both normally. Annoyingly my dad's not been able to get hold of him.
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby expat » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:58 pm

Simple really, whats the term for the way the pilots use their eyes seperatly? one to see where their going the other to use keep an eye on the instruments.
I know it has a specific term I just cant think of it.



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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby Mobius » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:40 pm

Do you mean HADSS?  Follow the link and scroll to avionics to see if that's it... http://www.janes.com/defence/air_forces ... _1_n.shtml

I thought you meant like this....

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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby Craig. » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:45 pm

thats the system yeah.
What i'm looking for is the name of the skill in using it.
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby beaky » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:25 am

Interesting you should mention this... not many people know that Marty Feldman was a very accomplished pilot, very likely the first aviator to perfect this technique...

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I've never heard of pilots going walleyed to enhance their scan... sounds like a crock to me. A few seconds here, a few there, with both eyes- that's sufficient.
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby beaky » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:26 am

lol,
Basically the pilot uses an eye piece with his right eye I believe. This displays the outside world through whatever method I believe its infra-red, which allows him in bad weather and at night to keep his head firmly planted inside the cockpit without the worry of not actually being able to see outside. Then he uses his left eye to monitor and keep watch on the various systems.
One of my dads mates is the chief test pilot for the uk apache program, he told me it was like reading a book with your left eye while watching tv with the other, and your brain being able to process both so it seems like your doing both normally. Annoyingly my dad's not been able to get hold of him.


Oh- well, chopper pilots... it figures. ::)  ;D
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby FridayChild » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:30 am

My home country air force briefly considered training its pilots in this technique, but gave up because it was too hard to find chameleons tall enough to reach the rudder pedals.
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby TSC. » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:54 am

I've heard about it, but I've only heard about it being used by Apache pilots - can't remember the name of it though :-/

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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby CSM » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:17 am

is it like your periferial vision?
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby C » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:07 pm

HMD's really are just a HUD a couple of feet closer to your eyes and that move with your head. I expect the looking one way with one eye and another with the other is a bit of an urban myth...
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Re: whats the term? Apache

Postby Theis » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:41 pm

hahaha never heard of such a thing... ill sit back and watch this thread in preparation to learn something new today.

Only thing i can think of is an eye patch... keeps one eye accustomed to the dim interior lighting while the other eye is adjusted for the darkness of the exterior. when you need good night vision... dim the lights all the way to dark and move the eye patch to the other eye.

now your previously eye patched eye will be able to see in the dark to a much greater extent than the other eye.


is this what your talking about?

If we see that on a patient, then it would be most likely a brain damage..
The eyes works in pairs, so that shouldn't could happen..
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