Is This Real??

[TSC.]

Have just seen this on Strangemilitary.com:

USS Midway VA-25's Toilet Bomb

In October 1965, CDR Clarence J. Stoddard, Executive Officer of VA-25 "Fist of the Fleet", flying an A-1H Skyraider, NE/572 "Paper Tiger II"
from Carrier Air Wing Two aboard USS Midway carried a special bomb to the North Vietnamese in commemoration of the 6 millionth pound of ordinance dropped. This bomb was unique because of the type... it was a toilet!

The following is an account of this event, courtesy of Clint Johnson, Captain, USNR Ret. Captain Johnson was one of the two VA-25 A-1 Skyraider pilots credited with shooting down a MiG-17 on June 20, 1965.

I was a pilot in VA-25 on the 1965 Vietnam cruise.

The 572 was flown by CDR C. W. "Bill" Stoddard. His wingman in 577 (which was my assigned airplane) was LCDR Robin Bacon, who had a wing station mounted movie camera (the only one remaining in the fleet from WWII).

The flight was a Dixie Station strike (South Vietnam) going to the Delta. When they arrived in the target area and CDR Stoddard was reading the ordnance list to the FAC, he ended with "and one code name Sani-flush".
The FAC couldn't believe it and joined up to see it. It was dropped in a dive with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop.
When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.
It made a great ready room movie. The FAC said that it whistled all the way down. The toilet was a damaged toilet, which was going to be thrown overboard.

One of our plane captains rescued it and the ordinance crew made a rack, tailfins and nose fuse for it. Our checkers maintained a position to block the view of the air boss and the Captain while the aircraft was taxiing forward.

Just as it was being shot off, we got a 1MC message from the bridge, "What the h3ll was on 572's right wing?" There were a lot of jokes with air intelligence about germ warfare. I wish that we had saved the movie film.

CDR Stoddard was later killed while flying 572 in Oct 1966.
He was hit by three SAMs over Vinh.



Cheers,

TSC.

(Text & picture courtesy of Strangemilitary.com)

[mrjake2002]

I can only presume.. yes. Strange though!

[TSC.]

I assumed it was at first - but, I've just looked at the picture again & i'm not so sure anymore - I mean, look at the size of that toilet compared to the guy standing next to it?!?

Cheers,

TSC.

[beefhole]

I assumed it was at first - but, I've just looked at the picture again & i'm not so sure anymore - I mean, look at the size of that toilet compared to the guy standing next to it?!?

He's a good deal behind it-check out the redshirt to the right, he's in the correct proportion to the toilet.

[gryshnak]

One bit sounds fishy to me:

It was dropped in a dive with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop.
When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.
It made a great ready room movie. The FAC said that it whistled all the way down. The toilet was a damaged toilet, which was going to be thrown overboard.

One of our plane captains rescued it

What is the likelihood that a toilet could be dropped from a plane, and still be in one piece to be 'rescued' and dropped again later?  Wouldn't it shatter into a thousand pieces on impact?

Gryshnak

[beefhole]

One bit sounds fishy to me:


What is the likelihood that a toilet could be dropped from a plane, and still be in one piece to be 'rescued' and dropped again later?  Wouldn't it shatter into a thousand pieces on impact?

Gryshnak

I don't see where it says it's been dropped before.

[Hagar]

[quote]What is the likelihood that a toilet could be dropped from a plane, and still be in one piece to be 'rescued' and dropped again later?

[TSC.]

He's a good deal behind it-check out the redshirt to the right, he's in the correct proportion to the toilet.

Ahh yes, your right there Beefy - I thought he was leaning against the toilet.

So i'll revert to once more thinking this could be real.

Cheers,

TSC.

[gryshnak]

Okay, looks like I'm misreading this.

It was dropped in a dive with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop.  
When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.  
It made a great ready room movie. The FAC said that it whistled all the way down.

That sounds like it was dropped to me.  Then, after that:

One of our plane captains rescued it and the ordinance crew made a rack, tailfins and nose fuse for it

If it was only dropped once, that's poorly written.

Or maybe I'm just being fussy and expecting high standards from journalists  ;)

Gryshnak

[expat]

Or maybe I'm just being fussy and expecting high standards from journalists  ;)
Gryshnak

High standards from journalists....................sounds fussy to me.

Matt

[Hagar]

[quote]If it was only dropped once, that's poorly written.

Or maybe I'm just being fussy and expecting high standards from journalists

[TSC.]

Great find on the info there Doug, thanks for clearing this one up.

Cheers,

TSC.