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Get rid of Stavelot?  If they keep crapping up all these classic tracks F-1 will get the NASCAR "cookie-cutter" track syndrome, where there isn't much difference between each race.  The FIA needs to focus more on tradition, rather than newer and bigger circuits

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Get rid of Stavelot?

What rubbish. Then again, having seen what they did to Hockenheim (not only shortening it, but they digging up the remains of the old loop), it wouldn't surprise me.

One of the joys of Spa is its length.

Spa has always been one of my favourite tracks, as a spectator (albeit on the TV) and a driver (albeit on the Playstation  :P )

It's worth remembering that the current layout is considerably shorter than the original.. along with Nurburgring, Hockenheim, Interlagos etc. The list goes on. The only track which has actually got longer is Silverstone, due to the addition of numerous chicanes...

I'd love to know the excuses for this?
Safety? we've just witnessed a race round a high speed track with walls for barriers and no run off, without incident.
Distance? same thing since brand new valencia is only a few hundred yards longer than Spa.
Overtaking? Not one of the tilkedromes have provided overtaking on a consistant basis.
Excitement? The Schumi hakkinnen pass between the other guy down the main straight? Montoya's pass around the outside at eau rouge. Michael schumachers fighting march down the pitlane to find DC. If theres one track which provides excitment its Spa.

It's another case of Bernie and Max getting together and trying to come up with ways to piss off the F1 fan base.

[quote]Spa has always been one of my favourite tracks, as a spectator (albeit on the TV) and a driver (albeit on the Playstation

Apalling, although it is disputed over on the Autosport forum - the circuit owner or somebody refutes these claims, or somthing like that!

Having been to Spa (with the old bus stop) i can confirm that its possibly the greatest place to go and watch a race...without doubt! Seeing Senna, Mansell, Prost, Berger, et al flat out through Blanchimont is somthing ill never forget.

Standing at the lowest part of eau rouge is quite somthing as well - i dont know if you still can but its certainly a 'hairs up on the back of the neck' place, in fact the whole circuit is. Its a most bizarre place for the motor racing fan, i know that. I didnt know you could feel, smell and almost touch history...

Ive probably mentioned it before though so ill shut up!

Long live the proper spa! Although in its original form it was no doubt more awesome 8-)

[quote][quote]Spa has always been one of my favourite tracks, as a spectator (albeit on the TV) and a driver (albeit on the Playstation

Max may well enjoy that

Max may well enjoy that

Max may well enjoy that

 Only if you dress as a......, never mind.

The FIA are really annoying me as of recent.

Making the cars slower each year, making them have more drag, more bits sticking out for control over speed and just generally limiting everything.

It will eventually turn into racing where 50 layers of bubble-wrap around all the cars and corners is a minimum.

The FIA are really annoying me as of recent.

Making the cars slower each year, making them have more drag, more bits sticking out for control over speed and just generally limiting everything.

It will eventually turn into racing where 50 layers of bubble-wrap around all the cars and corners is a minimum.

In general the cars are actually faster in the corners, those bits being sprouted are not the FIA, but the teams taking advantage of the FIA's rules.
Next year things will be back to basics. No winglets, no messy designs. Lower wider front wing, higher and narrower rear wing, smaller diffuser, and slick tyres.
Sadly three areas in need of change still arn't being addressed.
1: The 19,000 RPM limit, until that is removed, overtaking is a thing of lunges into corners.
2: The type of engine/engine freeze. The 2.4 V8 just doesn't have the power or driveability of the 3.0L V10's to allow proper out of corner drag race's and they are all generally within 14 to 15BHP of each other.
3: Ride height. Until they allow teams to lower the cars properly like they were in the 90's, there will always be the problem of dirty air affecting the car behind.

Hell yeah! Get rid of those stupid planks, and lets have titanium skid strips back! Slicks and sparks - thats what we want! Plus up the engine CC - or lets have turbos, or V10's,and V12's totaly unrestricted like it should be. Its the pinnacle of motor racing yet its turning into a one make series more and more every year, or it seems to be :-/

I know they have to keep the costs down but your not telling me teams (apart from renault ) are not spending nearly as much as they used to trying to get more out of those engines by other means rather than pure 'steps' like they used to. And if they aint spending it on engines, then they are on this KERS thing....

Well, you'd have to go back pretty far to find a year when one make didn't dominate. As for turbos....um, no...not again. I'm sure Honda would love that though. The best racing was and always will be when it was basically unrestricted, but technology put an end to that. Indy was the same way. I remember seeing all sorts of wild designs in the 1960s-1970s era, many were built not in huge mega shops, but in small garages by men not necessarily with college degrees but with big imaginations. Sadly those days are gone, never to return.