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Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:30 pm
by Craig.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63547

Well, that could be an interesting twist and way to end the season.

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:35 pm
by Hagar
Hahahahaha! ;D You couldn't make it up. :D

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:35 pm
by MWISimmer
You beat me to it!  ;D

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:49 pm
by Craig.
The only precident that they can pull on in this case. Was Brazil in the 90's. DC and Schumi were both excluded from the results but after a hearing they were reinstated and only constructors points were taken. As such if there is a simmilar problem, then surely the same must happen again.
I'm sorry but Lewis does not deserve the title like this. I'm not a big Kimi fan but after everything this year, he deserves the title, and too lose it like this would seriously make me reconsider watching this "sport"
Funny how Nakajimi isn't under investigation. ::)

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:05 pm
by MWISimmer
Like you say Craig, the precedent has been set. If any penalties are to be dished out then constructor points deductions are the only way to go. If not, Ferrari and Kimi most certainly will appeal and I think they'd win, no problems, due to the last infringememnt of this nature.
What a sad end to the season.

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:13 pm
by Craig.
Well just to get me complained at some more.
But if the worst that happend to Mclaren after the spying thing was constructors points dropped with the excuse being, they didn't want to take away from the title fight, or punish the drivers for a team mistake, then surely again this situation should be the same. Look back to the friday situation of Mclaren breaking the rules there with the tyres. A fine so as not to do anything to put the title battle into question.
All the penalties given out to Mclaren this year have been in the interest of preserving the title battles credibility, and Bernie/ the FIA have made it public knowledge when handing them out.
The way the race went today for Lewis, it simply would make no sense to change that running theme. Lewis wasn't battling with or near the BMW's or Nico. His race was basically ruined by a technical fault and not an on track battle.

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:20 pm
by Craig.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63557
Looks like this years championship will be decided in the courts. Fitting I guess considering everything thats happend this year. What a shame, and what a way to screw up such a fantastic end to the season. :'(

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:48 pm
by Craig.
Some reports saying no punishment.
I dont think it matters anymore. This situation has ruined the titles credibility now i've given some time to think about it.
Whoever benifits from the FIA's decision be it Lewis or Kimi, the other side will always be able to claim to was unfairly given to them by the FIA. Damn the FIA. :-/

thanks to an autosport poster for this
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7343 ... en1wm7.jpg ;D ;D

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:06 pm
by C
Some reports saying no punishment.
I dont think it matters anymore. This situation has ruined the titles credibility now i've given some time to think about it.
Whoever benifits from the FIA's decision be it Lewis or Kimi, the other side will always be able to claim to was unfairly given to them by the FIA. Damn the FIA. :-/


Quite. Mike Gasgoyne's comments in that article are very interesting though, as presumably if there was a measurable performance advantage, taken into account over the whole race, you have to ask very serious questions, as not only would it have artificially enhanced their advantage over the chasing Lewis once he was on his way up to seventh, but also whilst he was going backwards! ;D

Interesting headache. Not fair to anyone who it affects.

Maybe they ought to call the title a dead heat. That would teach both McLaren and Ferrari a bit of a "stop messing about" lesson...

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:08 pm
by Craig.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63567
Kimi champ.
Till Mclaren Protest, Or Red bull protest. My guess is come austrlia in 5 months, we wont have a champion. :'(
No punishment at all really screws this up. ::)

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:09 pm
by Craig.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63570
As expected. However as the link states, first the appeal has to be accepted (maybe a chance they wont) then a date will be set. the Torro Rosso/ Spyker appeal was two weeks, I'd imagine something simmilar for this time round if the appeal goes through.

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:03 pm
by C
There's only one thing they can do. Call the championship null and void, which would teach all the teams a lesson, and certainly remind the Marranello company that they are by no means whiter than white. The sooner Mosley is removed and replaced by someone impartial (not another former business partner of Bernie) the better. Sadly, I'm a realist and know that will never happen, even if BE can't get rid of all his foes from the 70s (we all know he'd prefer big manufacturers rather than independants such as Williams) in his lifetime.

The sport is just losing any credability it had...

...which was very little... ::) ;D

Re: Title may NOT be decided

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:07 pm
by expat
I see both sides of the story, leave as it is, or rules are rules are rules. However, if it was me, I would be rather embarrassed to be driveling around with a "1" on my nose (of my car ::)) that was won in court. After all, not that it would be pointed out at ever race by every commentator ::). The boy is young, and it is just a question of time before he does it. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Matt