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Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:31 pm
by Jaffa
Very very impressive...

5.5L diesel V12 producing 650hp and 1100nm of torque.  

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Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:05 pm
by BMan1113VR
811 ft-lb for all who don't do nm

I heard that they were going to do a diesel, never believed it

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:23 am
by GeForce
Nice. Spoiler looks a bit of an afterthought in my opinion... 8)

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:50 pm
by Ecko
Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car? ???


Only thing I can think of is to increase the torque. Still seems crazy though.. ::)

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:01 pm
by Craig.
Why in the hell would you do a diesel race car? ???

Formula 1 will soon be switching to hybrid technology. Fuel cells and so on. Its about time motor-racing moved forward in new fuels.

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:47 pm
by BMan1113VR
although racing a car with a 5k readline is not really great for fast tracks

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:47 pm
by Hai Perso Coyone?
Looks cool 8)

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:00 pm
by beaky
Formula 1 will soon be switching to hybrid technology. Fuel cells and so on. Its about time motor-racing moved forward in new fuels.


Using electric hybrids for racing has exciting possibilities: an electric motor yields 100% torque immediately! Fewer pit stops, too...
Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that...?

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:58 pm
by BMan1113VR

Using electric hybrids for racing has exciting possibilities: an electric motor yields 100% torque immediately! Fewer pit stops, too...
Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that...?
also a 17% weight increase

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:11 am
by wombat666
 "Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."
That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! ::)
As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:26 am
by wombat666
 "Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."

That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! ::)
As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.
That aside, "Effwun" is being dumbed-down to the lower end of the food chain and will probably fall over soon .... the sooner the better IMHO!

And FWIW, a turbocharged Cummins Diesel bus engine in a Kurtis Kraft chassis was on pole position for the 1952 Indy 500, running at the front until it 'retired' (the internal Indy politics a rumoured to have been involved here!)  with a clogged turbo intake.

Could I suggest that the Audi group will be flogging diesel powered civilian vehicles with a vengance very soon.
  ;D

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:09 am
by beaky
 "Wasn't there a Formula 1 (?) car entered a while back that used 4 motors (1 at each wheel) in a hybrid system, but was disqualified? Where the heck did I hear that..."
That would probably be the "Mac-It Special" from the CanAm days ... it never raced but did attempt to qualify a few times.
Getting 4 (as in FOUR!) Bombadeir snowmobile engines to run in harmony would be almost impossible! ::)
As for a Diesel .... well, tons of low down torque, a great showcase for diesel technology and at an event such as LM better fuel economy and the weight increase counts for nothing.


I meant four electric motors... ::) in addition to a gasoline engine... hence the term "hybrid"...
Unfortunately, I can't find any info on it. What I remember hearing is that it was entered because there was no rule on the books against it, but it outclassed the rest of the pack so badly it was banned. I think it used a simple regenerative-braking system basically to add torque- lots of it- when passing.
As for the weight: not necessarily. You'd be adding weight (electric motors, batteries), but you'd be taking away weight also (smaller engine, less fuel).
The ideal hybrid would most likely have a high-efficiency diesel powerplant, for all the reasons mentioned above... and lower operating temps.
 

Re: Audi Unveils R10

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:53 pm
by BMan1113VR
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I meant four electric motors... ::) in addition to a gasoline engine... hence the term "hybrid"...
Unfortunately, I can't find any info on it. What I remember hearing is that it was entered because there was no rule on the books against it, but it outclassed the rest of the pack so badly it was banned. I think it used a simple regenerative-braking system basically to add torque- lots of it- when passing.
As for the weight: not necessarily. You'd be adding weight (electric motors, batteries), but you'd be taking away weight also (smaller engine, less fuel).
The ideal hybrid would most likely have a high-efficiency diesel powerplant, for all the reasons mentioned above... and lower operating temps.