2009 Camaro Concept

[BMan1113VR]

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As for the new Mustang, I'm sure it has much improved handling-but I'll bet its not like a European sports car.

[BMan1113VR]

The current SRT10 is rated at 510hp and 535ft/lbs or torque, don't forget torque is at least as important as big horsepower for performance and most european cars don't make torque like American cars.

and that is underated according to motortrend, who dynoed one and made 440 rwhp (~530whp). The big surprise in the motortrend article was that the Ford GT is EXTREMLY under-rated. they got over 500 horsepower at the rear wheels (meaning upwards of 620 horsepower at the crank!)

[RichieB16]

You know, I just don't know about all these numbers.  It seems to me that half of the higher performance cars are pushing 400hp or more for not that much money (an example is the Charger).  It seems to me that either they have changed how they rate them or that they are greatly inflating them.

Remember, it is still "net hp" not "gross hp" like in the old days.  So, one of these 400hp cars would have probably 500hp by the way they rated cars in the 1960s.  I've been in a car that actually has 500hp and it was scary fast (and I hope to be in it again soon  ;D) but I have a hard time believing all these numbers.

Who knows, maybe my suspision is misplaced.

[bbstackerf]

I think you guys are missing the point to retro styled cars. They are targeted at the baby boomer generation who aren't necessarily looking to cruise and drag race down at the local strip. The cars makers are looking to appeal to the kids from the 60s and 70s who grew up idolizing these cars and now have the income to spend on them. Muscle car purists will definitely be disappointed in them, but the larger 'wannabe' average joe market will suck them up like cold beer on a hot day. Most people who buy these will not know the difference between hp and torque. There's a guy who owns the business down the way who got himself one of the new Chargers. He's so tickled shitless with himself it's funny. Think about it, remember in the 80's and 90's? Most of the people you saw tooling around in a brand new camaro or firebird were average people with gray hair. It'll be the same with these. Try this, look at all the Corvettes you see driving around, I'll bet most of the time the guy/lady will be someone in their 40's or older.

Keni

[BMan1113VR]

[quote]You know, I just don't know about all these numbers.

[RichieB16]

Suposedly the SAE doesn't lie

...or so they say.  

I don't know, maybe its true.  I just find it difficult to believe.

[RichieB16]

Hey, I was looking around at one of the many chevy websites that I frequent-and I finally found a really good interior photo.

I really like the console with the 4 gauges-just like it had in 1969.  That is one of my favorite classic options and I'm really glad to see it once again.  I'm not completely sure about that gold trim-it looks nice but I think it seems slightly out of place or something.

In any case, I think the interior looks very futuristic.

[BMan1113VR]

the shifter makes me worry. I sat in an s60r at the LA Autoshow that had a standard tranny with a plastic. . .not shiftboot, but more shift cover. it was by far the sloppiest shifter that i have ever put my hand on.


btw, got a test drive of a fullyloaded caymen s today. that is quite a car, very different from the boxster.