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Re: Sport?

Postby Hagar » Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:06 am

Sorry Hagar but most people that would reply too this thread don't come to the "Auto" forum, like I said I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the fact that I clicked on it in "Discussion".

I'm inclined to agree on that point. The fact that the topic is still in the General forum would seem to cancel this out. :-/

I cannot agree about racing drivers being athletes. To me an athlete is a person relying solely on their physical fitness & prowess to compete with others on equal terms. Racing drivers are indeed very fit but no more so that anyone who works out regularly. An unfit but highly experienced driver in a better car would invariably beat a fit one.

Driving a modern racing car is by itself not physically demanding. It's possible to compete in a motor race with a broken leg which would be impossible for an athlete in any conventional sport. Apart from general fitness the prime concern for a successful racing driver is stamina & strong neck muscles to counteract the considerable G forces in turns.
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Re: Sport?

Postby Wing Nut » Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:37 am

Definitely got to disagree with you on that one Doug.  Sitting yes, but what they have to endure in the course of a four hour, 500 mile race is almost beyond comprehension.  If you're definition of an athlete is how much they sweat, then they definitely do that.
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Re: Sport?

Postby Fly2e » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:14 am

Posted by: cub125 Posted on: Feb 17th, 2004, 9:36pm
NO!!! it isn't in the right forum!
Hi Cub, I am sorry you are angry.  ???
As moderators, we try to keep everybody happy!  ;D
The reason this is in the autos section is because it is a discussion about autos, correct?
Seems to me that allot of members are conversing here.  ;D

Posted by: Pippin Posted on: Today at 9:37am
Definitely got to disagree with you on that one Doug.  Sitting yes, but what they have to endure in the course of a four hour, 500 mile race is almost beyond comprehension.  If you're definition of an athlete is how much they sweat, then they definitely do that.  
Nicely said Kevin! Couldn't agree more!

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Re: Sport?

Postby Hagar » Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:18 am

You're missing my point Kevin. It seems that we disagree on almost everything these days but despite what you might think I'm not deliberately trying to be awkward. ;)

Yes - racing drivers need to be fit, yes they sweat, yes they can lose many pounds of weight during a race. I agree on all these points. 10 laps as a passenger in a Lamborghini Diablo around Goodwood race track exhausted me for the rest of the day. That does not make racing drivers athletes as their performance or success in a race is not dependent on their physical physique or fitness.
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Re: Sport?

Postby The Ruptured Duck » Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:46 pm

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Re: Sport?

Postby Fly2e » Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:42 pm

I give up! This is going no where :-/
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Re: Sport?

Postby The Ruptured Duck » Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:44 pm

Ok, so please move it back to the general section. :)
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Re: Sport?

Postby BMan1113VR » Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:39 pm

i find that this post talks ONLY about F1 racing, which no matter if it is a sport or not, or if the drivers are athletes or not, it still is about car racing, i don't think that it being in the auto forum will bias anyone's opinion

if other moderators see differently, please feel inclined to move it, personally i think it is fine where it is now
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Re: Sport?

Postby Fly2e » Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:59 am

Posted by: The Ruptured Duck Posted on: Feb Th, 2004, 7PM
OK, so please move it back to the general section.

Cub, you sure are persistent for somebody who is NEW to the forums. I am sure that after being here a while , you will focus more on the content of the thread and not the location. After all, you don't want to be "black flagged"  ;)
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Re: Sport?

Postby Wing Nut » Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:06 am

Hey Doug, anyone who gets to drive a Diablo around a race track is ok by me, no matter how much his opinion differs from mine.
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Re: Sport?

Postby The Ruptured Duck » Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:55 pm

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Cub, you sure are persistent for somebody who is NEW to the forums. I am sure that after being here a while , you will focus more on the content of the thread and not the location. After all, you don't want to be "black flagged"
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Re: Sport?

Postby Hagar » Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:16 am

[quote]New? me? no way
ive been using this forum for at least 2 years
why havent you seen me?
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Re: Sport?

Postby Wing Nut » Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:08 am

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ive been using this forum for at least 2 years
why havent you seen me?
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Re: Sport?

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:10 am

Yes race driving is a sport. No drivers are not atheletes. What pippin says about atheletes being people who participate in sport is correct. However this does not neccesarily work the other way round. Meaning someone who participates in sport does not have to be an athelete.

Sailing is a sport. But are the people who sail the boats atheletes? No they're sailors. So someone who races a car round a track is a driver.

The only time a racing driver has to do anything athletic is when he has to run to his car at the start of Le Mans 24 hours. ;)
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Re: Sport?

Postby Fly2e » Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:03 am

I do not have a problem with having someone move a post, its what he moved is what I have a problem with(especially because I asked specifically, not to have it moved in the original post and explained why)
That "He" would be Me and WHAT I MOVED was a thread about autos to the Autos Section!!!!

because I asked specifically, not to have it moved
Is this the reason you are so upset? If so I think you should stop acting like it was a personal attack on you and focus your energies someplace else. This is an Aviation forum, not a debate club!

And i do not have a problem with moderators, just to put out that fire before it starts!
Then let's drop it and discuss what your original thread was about. It seems most everybody else is engaging your post except you!

The only time a racing driver has to do anything athletic is when he has to run to his car at the start of Le Mans 24 hours.
Then what is the Pit Crew considered Woody?
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