Pit lane rules

[expat]

Probably one for Craig, so.......Hamilton and Vettel get a stiff talking too, but what about Alonso? There must be something about overtaking a car on the pit entry road. But doing it to your team mate and then pushing him off into the grass. Bet they will not be having a beer together for the foreseeable future. On another note, nice to see Alonso has taken a leaf out of the Schumacher book of racing....got to get ahead regardless of the cost. I would love to have been a fly on the wall at the Ferrari debrief, not to mention the radio "remarks" that Massa probably had with his engineer

Matt

[The Ruptured Duck]

I'm suprised Alonso didn't just sit there in the pit box afterwards with Massa behind him waiting

[Craig.]

I must admit I was surprised he pulled the move on his team mate, but apparently Massa has said he had a poor exit from the hairpin which cost him the position. Perhaps towing the company line.
The move itself, while questionable, was legal, until you cross the pit speed limit line (or at certain tracks, pit entry line, Valencia and Singapore to name a few) then your are still free to race and or pass.
As for Hamilton, while what happened in the pits, was perhaps more weather related than team release related, I do believe he should have been penalised for his past the corner entry to the pits, he had commited to the race track, and effectivly went the wrong way on the track to pit. That is an instant black flag, and possible race ban at the next event in my understanding.
Alonso was penalised for the same thing last year at Valencia, but again I think the pit entry line may come into it in that case. But either way, That should have been investigated as well.
As a closing point. Hamilton was warned in Australia for dangerous driving, he was warned in China, for dangerous driving, two offenses that should have led to a penalty in themselves. Now I am all for the whole, having a driver on the Stewards panel, and I commend them for finally having some common sense on decisions, but at the same time they need to be consistent.
This is not me having a go at Lewis, he just happens to be the first to receive two warnings for the same thing.
Something also tells me Felipe is clearly being overlooked at Ferrari for Alonso. I hope for his sake he is strong enough mentally to get past it, because he has shown he is more than quick enough in the car.

[The Ruptured Duck]

Hamilton was warned in Malaysia.  It was Australia where Weber should have been warned after driving like a maniac.  Why you had to deflect a comment about Ferrari towards Mclaren is beyond me.

And as for Massa's response to the incident, you don't think Ferrari would have asked him to say that for political reasons?  How many times have we seen drivers say everything is OK when just the opposite is true?

[Craig.]

I was just pointing out how the system is supposed to work this year, and it just happend to be a Mclaren involved. They were the one's warned in two races.
I said I didn't see anything wrong with what they were warned for, I brought it up because it was Matt's original comment. Your right though I got Australia and Malaysia mixed up, either way it was just a lead on to the new rules. If it had been a Lotus or a Hispania car as the example they would have been used.
What can I say about Ferrari incident really? It was legal, I explained why, as for why Massa said what he said, like Alonso he has quite a short temper, it was just as likely he could have said something provocative towards the incident had he not been spoken to first. But he may have also just grown up lately and decided it wasn't worth the hassle to create tension.
Ferrari these days you never know whats going on with the management and co, they are at times quite honestly a joke. Even Luca DM seems to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic lately. So it wouldn't surprise me if Massa had gone off on one, they would have just let him.