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Start procedure for wilco 777 engines ?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:35 am
by tiabu6620
DOES someone  has the full procedures to start correctly the two engines of the wilco boeing 777-200
sometime i can start them but the two generators eng still stay off
EICAS message "GEN OFF ENG L+R"
so i cannot start the gps the mcp  and also the atc doesn't work so the last solution is to fly with only the apu generator , not cool !
some help thanks

i have already the mike ray procedures pdf

Re: Start procedure for wilco 777 engines ?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:49 am
by Slotback
I don't have the plane, so this is just a guess...

MANUAL START:

APU... ON.
(possible 1 minute warmup period before bleed air turns on, just wait till AVAIL lights up on APU bleed switch, then turn it on)
APU BLEED... ON.
PNEUMATIC ISOLATION VALVES... OPEN.
PACKS... OFF.
ANTI-ICE... OFF.
ENGINE BLEED... ON.
FUEL CUTOFF SWITCH... CUTOFF.
FUEL PUMPS... ON.
ENGINE IGNITION.... IGN, START, or CONT (in that order of preferance).
START VALVE ENGINE TWO... ON AND HOLD.
When N1 / N2 stop increasing (max motor), then FUEL CUTOFF SWITCH.... RUN.
START VALVE ENGINE ONE... ON AND HOLD.
When N1 / N2 stop increasing (max motor), then FUEL CUTOFF SWITCH.... RUN.
L GEN...ON.
R GEN...ON.
PACKS...ON.
APU...OFF.
APU BLEED...OFF.


OR...

AUTOSTART:

APU... ON.
(possible 1 minute warmup period before bleed air turns on, just wait till AVAIL lights up on APU bleed switch, then turn it on)
APU BLEED... ON.
PNEUMATIC ISOLATION VALVES... OPEN.
PACKS... OFF.
ANTI-ICE... OFF.
ENGINE BLEED... ON.
FUEL CUTOFF SWITCH... RUN.
FUEL PUMPS... ON.
ENGINE IGNITION.... IGN, START, or CONT (in that order of preferance).
AUTOSTART SWITCH ENGINE 2.... GO.
(once engine 2 started...)
AUTOSTART SWITCH ENGINE 1... GO.
(once both engines started)
L GEN...ON.
R GEN...ON.
PACKS...ON.
APU...OFF.
APU BLEED...OFF.

I'll try and help with other issues once you can start engines properly. Either one of the above should probably work - but everything there is just off the top of my head and from the MD-80 / 747...

Re: Start procedure for wilco 777 engines ?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:42 am
by tiabu6620
YES it's exactly this order but i have the same problem

i cannot turn the GEN L and GEN R switches ON
they stay to FAULT light in orange and if i clic on the switch it turns OFF

Re: Start procedure for wilco 777 engines ?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:42 pm
by Slotback
Any failures? Also, make sure any DRIVE DISC switches are OFF... and also look in options for the plane, and RESET generator drives....

Re: Start procedure for wilco 777 engines ?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:22 am
by tiabu6620
don't find where are the option for the plane

but i resolve my problem : after starting both engines i taped J+1 and J+2 and the two ENG GEN turns on

another question ? how do you turn the TCAS ON ??
because i have also the error message on the eicas "TCAS OFF"

Re: Start procedure for wilco 777 engines ?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:39 am
by Slotback
Shouldn't this stuff be in the manual?

I'll give you a four hints...:
It's on a panel with TCAS written on it.  ::)
It's on the pedestal.
TA stands for traffic advisory
RA stands for resolution advisory....

Is that enough?

Re: Start procedure for wilco 777 engines ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:13 am
by tiabu6620
i think i found it
it's near the squawk TARA
how does it work he will notice me on the nearest traffic by an allert ?