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Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:29 pm
by Rocket_Bird
Ok, just been thinking about adding a huge bird into my hanger, the question is... which one?  

Im looking at the Level-D 767 and the PMDG 747 right now.  The Level-D I heard has great flight dynamics and avionics and such, plus its great on frames and not as expensive, though the file itself seems larger.  The PMDG 747 has a very pleasing look to it, seems just as complex, doors and seats slide open and a nice virtual cabin, and I heard it runs smoother on frames than the PMDG 737NG which is a plus!

Question is... which one?  Can only afford one at the moment  ???

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:35 pm
by CODY614
Oh boy...... ;D
Why just one? ::)
This is tough one....Bang for your buck. PMDG747!Remember that the upper deck goes all the way back,Just a V/C on the 767.
More clicky things in the PMDG747.....Not so many in the 767.
The 767 seems to be easier to manage. 747 very complex!
So I lean toward Bling and complexity!

Jeff T.

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:08 am
by Gunny04
If you have the comp to handle it, then the 747.... Taxes a bit but not terribly like some! I ran it on my old MX but not to perfection, basically what your computer can do and what you want! Cheers, Gunny

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:42 am
by Alphajet_Enthusiast
Oh boy...... ;D
Why just one? ::)
This is tough one....Bang for your buck. PMDG747!Remember that the upper deck goes all the way back,Just a V/C on the 767.
More clicky things in the PMDG747.....Not so many in the 767.
The 767 seems to be easier to manage. 747 very complex!
So I lean toward Bling and complexity!

Jeff T.

Actually they are almost equally complex and have very similar systems on board. ;) The LEVEL-D 767 Flight Management Computer is actually more complex than the PMDG 747 one.

These are both great aircraft, pretty much equally as complex and very similar by manner of operation.
This is a tough call, both their virtuals are of similar quality, lest the PMDG one a bit more interactive as you can move back the seats, faold armsrests etc.
You will also find them to be pretty similar in frames, about the level of the PMDG 737 but the LEVEL-D a bit heavier, particularly in its virtual cockpit. Still, both are very gentle on frames.
I guess it comes down to which plane you like more, really. If you cannot yet do so, you have to learn to use the FMC, IMO it is sad how some people buy these complex addons then navigate with the GPS GN500.
Have fun with whatever your choice will be! (and post some shots in the payware screenshots forum!)

Alpha  :)

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:45 am
by Ecko
I have both, and yet I always find myself flying the 767...
Really they're both great. In real life, I'm probably more of 747 fan.

I can't put a finger on what it is... But the LD767 is just better. :-X

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:11 am
by Alphajet_Enthusiast
I put a finger on what it is... But the LD767 is just better. :-X


Same here, I have both but 4/5 long haul flights of mine are in that 767.
:) :)

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:16 am
by Nexus
I'd go with the 747, which is a more complex plane and requires a little more attention. Has the better panel of them two aswell.

Also packs a longer range, naturally
Dont know which features the LDS FMC has that the PMDG lacks (RWY POS SHIFT?), but they are on par with each other

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:24 am
by jrpilot
I don't have the 747 but do have the lds 767.  Great aircraft fun to fly and handles great.  FMC isn't to hard to figure out pretty much just common sense once you learn it the first time and repetiton.  The liveries are a plus and the overhead panel is nice.  Some say it has the best VC ( I really don't use the VC but when I do, rarely, I admit it is awesome)

Your call.  Also the 747 is more expensive if you want to save some, but if you'll use this jet almost everyday/week for a year you will definetly get your money worth IMHO

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:20 am
by Alphajet_Enthusiast
Dont know which features the LDS FMC has that the PMDG lacks (RWY POS SHIFT?), but they are on par with each other


Sorry, my mistake you're right. :)
they are almost the same. I was thinking of the lack of Airways in the TO and VIA prompts but forgot thats only in the 737NG, not in the 747.

And Nexus does have a point, the PMDG 747 panel is "cleaner" and more accessible.

Also, a very noteworthy point:
ITS A PAIN TO FLY THE 767 AT A LOW SCREEN RES
That was a problem I had on my old PC. A lot of the things in the overhead become unclear and hard to read. So make sure you can handle high res.

But now that I can sim at highest Res the panel is great, just a bit cluttered with all the photoreal textures.

Let us know what it will be  :)

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:27 am
by CODY614
Wow......See I told you that this is a tough one. So youll' just have to get both!
;D
They are both super great airplanes.Each one has it's own high points. But neither has any thing to make anyone say dont' buy it!
Rocket bird......Which ever one you choose, You won't be sorry!


Jeff T.

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:38 pm
by ThatOnePerson
i have both, and i personnally think the 747 is better. More complex but that doesnt meen you cant fly around, you can just go pretty much and free fly without programming anthing. But i think it has a nicer vs and 2d, plus the upper deck is modled ;)

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:50 pm
by jrpilot
you can just go pretty much and free fly without programming anthing.



Then why spend all that money on something that you can download for free?

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:58 pm
by Gunny04
For how good it looks, and what it can do.... gotta have something to look at on those 9 hour hauls! Cheers, Gunny

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:11 pm
by ThatOnePerson


Then why spend all that money on something that you can download for free?



Well of course you will program it but sometimes its fun to just fly around. It is also excellent with the fmc and all the other little goodies

Re: Looking for maybe a Long Haul Jet?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:36 pm
by CODY614


Then why spend all that money on something that you can download for free?


I think what he means is no flight plan etc.
And if your comparing the PMDG 747 to the iFly 747.....Well,thats like a Porsche(PMDG) to a Yugo(iFly)!Sorry!
;D

Jeff T.