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Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:01 pm
by Springer6
Just Flight produce this scenery for large parts of the UK. It has a new terrain Mesh and textures made from actual ariel photo's.

It seems to have been designed for FS2002 and some reviews suggest that it does not perform too well in FS9. Plus there are no seasonal variations or night lighting available files would be too big). Nevertheless I am attracted to the possibility of actually seeing familiar landmarks and spotting my own home from the "air".

Has anyone had practical experience of using this in FS9 and would you recommend it ?  Is it something that you could just enable or disable at will and say just use in the summer in daylight ?

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:15 pm
by eno
You'll hear various arguments for and against. Some of our members can make it look absoutely fantastic .. others, me included, are not convinced  as it takes longer to load and doesn't look good under all conditions.

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:50 pm
by jrpilot
You should go on over to just flights forum..there you will find out if it will work..I suggest if it is not supported on F$2004 (which I assume you have) I would look else where, or wait till it possibly becomes supported in F$2004

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:54 pm
by Fozzer
I have Wales and the Midlands, and the South West of England, VFR CD's for FS 2002.

Remember that the scenery is just a flat photograph laid over the default scenery mesh.
Nothing sticks up in the air.
It was designed to be observed from a height of 2,000+ feet AGL.
Any altitude below that and the effect is just a blur, and at ground level everything is FLAT, there are no 3-D objects...!

It badly affects the frame rates, and the scenery takes a long time to catch up on the fly.

It's only real purpose is to follow a known route, (motorway, river, etc), at a height of 2,000 feet or more.
It is more of a novelty.

I have abandoned it long ago and now concentrate on downloaded add-on scenery mesh.

Paul.
(England).

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:05 pm
by stiz
i have it and it looks a lot better in FS2002, thats the only reason i have FS2k2 installed  :)

Stiz

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:08 pm
by Wing Nut
You should post this in the payware section.  You may have better luck there.  It really should be there anyway.   ;)

Kevin

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:12 pm
by Fozzer
You should post this in the payware section.  You may have better luck there.  It really should be there anyway.   ;)

Kevin



Ta, Kev....!

We'll have to rember remember that... ;)... ;D...!

Tee-Hee... ;D...!

Paul.

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:11 am
by Mozz
It's not all 2D flatness, the vfr autogen project, I hear, are well under way making 3D scenery for the vfr UK scenery series ;D

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:16 pm
by Springer6
Thanks for your comments guys.

Hmmmm, it seems that this VFR stuff has limited utility at least in FS9.

I have Fs2002 Pro still installed , but never use it as I find that terrain rendering and most especially the weather realism in FS9 are infinitely better.

Also my system cannot afford to take a further frame rate hit from VFR scenery.

A lot of scenery designers seem to be using the mesh that goes with this scenery though?

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:01 am
by || Andy ||
I have all 4 packages..

I highley recomend the wales package for mountains..
dunno why but there u go..

There is autogen.. check the visual flight website..
Autogen works very nicely..

I would recomend it if you have a pc over 2ghz and are able to run full mip map etc with plenty of fps to spare..

It badly affects the frame rates, and the scenery takes a long time to catch up on the fly.


And if you have a good pc and dont thrash around in a military jet, it wont need to 'catch up'..
like it says in the manual... below 120kt IAS and 2000-5000ft

About 80kts cruise makes vfr run nicely..
But i dont have a problem with the catch up afair even going at 140-160..

Just depends on ure comp.. with the fps.. i have no problems i get 30-40 with vfr and autogen..

Re: Just Flight VFR Scenery

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:43 pm
by bm
I've recently purchased two sets of the VFR scenery - I suffer no loss of framerates, but then I have recently wiped my drives and installed an OS dedicated to FS with rescource taking XP components etc out & no AV firewall etc.

XP install => system drivers & essentials etc => FS9 => FS9.1 update=>FS2004 VFR configuration utility => between 30-70FPS (depending on plane).

I do notice a slightly longer load time but other than that I don't see a performance loss - quite the reverse. On lower end systems I can see the trouble that may be had, but if you have a decent well set up higher end system (I have a P4c 3.2 Ghz, 9800XT 256Mb with 1Gb ram) then you should have no problems.