Payware PSS A320 series. Questions

[MarcoAviator]

I have the A320 payware series from PSS (A319, A320, A321).

I like them all but I can't quite decide what's the difference between them.

They all look the same,  and aside from a different weight and power they feel the same.

Do you guys fly any of these? What do you think of them?

Do you have a favorite?

[MarcoAviator]

Ha!! The forum I had been looking for to post this is the last one at the bottom ...  :-X the one I never see.  :D

[jrpilot]

My favorite out of those 3 is the A320 since many airlines I know of fly the A320...the A321 was pretty much a flop for Airbus..but my favorite Airbus is probally the A330...the A340's engines are to small and on the A340-600 the engines are to big and 2 to many engines

[jubjub47]

Nothing is different in the flight characteristics as that is the Airbus M-O.  They are different lengths though

[Mozz]

Yeah, they aim to keep all the A320 series flight characteristics the same (while they carry different numbers of passengers and so are different lengths) making them more economical for pilots to train and switch between the different types.

[Gary R.]

I am interested in trying a realistic Airbus add-on even though I'm usually a Boeing and MD man.  I need to know if the PSS A-320 is fully FS9 compliant. Iknow it was released for FS-2002 and I need to know if everything that was funtional under Fs-2002 carried over to FS9 correctly, FMC, all the various panel instruments, etc.

[MarcoAviator]

I have FS9.

as far as I can tell it is. I don't know much about the FMC since I use FS Navigator for that, but all visible panels work just fine.

I can try and play with the FMC and let you know what I find out. I tried a while ago and I seem to remember you couldn't enter a flight plan manually but it would pick it up from the FS flight planner.

[jrpilot]

I own the PSS Airbus's and to me, personally, I feel things were left out and that the Airbus's were

[Gary R.]

I recently aquired the 737 NG with some of my Christmas money. It's geat.

[Nexus]

The PSS airbus. Not that realistic since it doesn't even replicate the Airbus flight characteristics (remember ROLL RATE not BANK ANGLE!)
Also in the real bus there's no requirement to change pitch trim for changes in airspeed, configuration, or bank up to 33 degrees...PSS tries to simulate it but you still have to manually trim especially during the approach.

The FMS is not complete, no ADIRS modelled. Overhead is mostly dummy switches.

The airbus is very computer driven, which takes care of a myriad of functions...some of them are impossible to modell due to the limitations of the FS engine.

Regardless that, The PSS airbus is a very dumbed down Airbus for the casual simmer I would say.
And PSS charges you for liveries  >:(

SSW are working on a brand new A320, the previews looks good, but SSW has a history of releasing buggy aircrafts.

[jrpilot]

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[jubjub47]

The PSS airbus. Not that realistic since it doesn't even replicate the Airbus flight characteristics (remember ROLL RATE not BANK ANGLE!)
Also in the real bus there's no requirement to change pitch trim for changes in airspeed, configuration, or bank up to 33 degrees...PSS tries to simulate it but you still have to manually trim especially during the approach.

The FMS is not complete, no ADIRS modelled. Overhead is mostly dummy switches.

The airbus is very computer driven, which takes care of a myriad of functions...some of them are impossible to modell due to the limitations of the FS engine.

Regardless that, The PSS airbus is a very dumbed down Airbus for the casual simmer I would say.
And PSS charges you for liveries  >:(

SSW are working on a brand new A320, the previews looks good, but SSW has a history of releasing buggy aircrafts.

The PSS A330/340 does not have that problem.  The only reason that the A320's do is due to problems converting over to FS2004.

[Nexus]

Actually, I have the 330/340 package and comparing that to how the real aircraft is programmed to behave, I can assure you that the PSS airbus is not realistic.

The FBW system is simply too advanced to program in FS  :)

[jubjub47]

Actually, I have the 330/340 package and comparing that to how the real aircraft is programmed to behave, I can assure you that the PSS airbus is not realistic.

The FBW system is simply too advanced to program in FS  :)

Oh, I didn't realize that you were a trained Airbus Captain.  I apologize.  Until I see your certification I'll take your opinions with a grain of salt.  I'm not trying to be an a$%, but with the amount of planes I see you purchasing and posting shots of, I highly doubt that you spend enough time with each one to gain a solid understanding of each.  

And by no means is it the fault of PSS that FS cannot handle the systems that the plane they design uses.  

I personally find the PSS Buses fun to fly and far and above any other airbus products on the market.  Here's a big shocker too, none of the planes that we fly in FS handle anything like their realworld counterparts. I guess that is a PSS problem too?  FS just simply doesn't have the physics engine to calculate the aerodynamics the way that  is necessary for a realistic simulation.   When flying addon planes you really have to compromise to get an addon that you'll find suitable and enjoyable.

[Nexus]

No, I'm not an Airbus captain  :)
But I have the real Airbus A320 manual and my instructor is an A330 captain so I have already discussed the flaws of PSS airbus series with him.

The Airbus is (usually) flown in Normal law, which covers 3-axis control, flight envelope protection and load alleviation.
it has 3 modes
Ground
Flight
Flare

Now here's the breakdown:
The Flare mode is not modelled.
You need rudder pedal feedback for turn coordination functions
Pitch attitude protection is non existant, same with Bank angle and Flight Augmentation (Yaw)
Conclusion: It's not really an airbus you are flying  ;)

Now I have perfect understanding of the task the programmers have to face. One of my friend's is a beta tester for PMDG so I know how hard it is to develop these things.
I actually enjoy PSS aircrafts aswell.  :)
But to call the PSS A330/340 series f