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Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:18 pm
by Oz
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Would you go to work for free, I now I wouldn't?

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:28 pm
by Blade
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This isnt a job. Like you said, its a hobby

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:31 am
by planespotter
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This isnt a job. Like you said, its a hobby

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 1:23 pm
by Oz
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I stated for the person playing the game it's a hobby, not for the designer who has gone payware. Then it makes him a job. In your job you are providing a service for an outsourced provider. These payware designers are doing the samething. They are providing software that offers more than the default/freeware files that are offered.

I don't see how they are taking advantage of anyone as they aren't forcing us to purchase these addons?

Look at Abacus, they continue to release crap. I for one have stopped purchasing from them because of that and warn people of my money wasted on their product. yet Lago, FSGenesis and Lago has been money well spent by me. It adds to my enjoyment of MS2002 and hopefully 2004.

The people whinning seem to think it's so easy to put out "QUALITY" airfiles. If this was the case you would see alot more. I'll be waiting for your first release to let me know how easy it really is?

I for one don't want to learn so I have no worries purchasing quality product. There are people out there with talents I don't have and I thank them for that.

Good Luck Oz

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:14 pm
by RIC_BARKER
Here's my 2 pence worth...

I think Pete Dowson has done a great service to the flight sim community with FSUIPC. It's allowed designers to do many, many things that would otherwise not have been possible. I think it's great that he released them as freeware. I am upset however, that he's chosen to go the payware route. I don't think it's wrong - it's his prerogative after all - just a little dissapointed. Dissapointed in the same way I am whenever I see previously freeware outfits go the payware route.

I guess everyone moves on. As someone else her said, perhaps personal circumstances have 'forced' Pete into this. The fact remains that as more developers go to the 'Dark Side', another young gun will be more than happy to fill their freeware shoes.

There is an immense wealth of talent in this community, and rest assured that someone, somewhere will develop an alternative sooner or later.

As with any payware product, it should be our right 'not to buy'. Case in point - Abacus. Planespotter said they continue to release crap. Well fair enough, no-one is making you buy it - so don't. But, before you bash Abacus too much, remember that they produce a trio of programs without which (up until the realease of the gMax gamepack anyway), we would all have been flying the deafualt planes, with very few exceptions.

Anyways, like I said, just my 2 pence worth...

Ric B.

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:06 pm
by striker
Well just one alternative view on this.

As an avid & experienced flight simmer for years I've never installed any of Pete Dowson's FSUIPC or any other of his files.

Never even though about it.

I've installed all kinds of stuff & even design aircraft in my spare time. So what am I missing?

& I bet you my bottom dollar I'm in the majority of FS users here :)

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:22 pm
by Mustang
If you want to be able to buy payware make payware....
simple. you get what you put in. but then again simviation is the same put in a free plane get out free planes. whatever... things are changeing... unfortunantly

Also you can still Dl FSuipc on simviation... i did like 4 days ago

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:05 pm
by RIC_BARKER
Word is all current versions of FSUIPC will be incompatible with FS2004CoF  :(

Ric B.

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 4:53 pm
by TJ_Gumby
Making payware is just fine. However, what irks me is when they make freeware and then change their minds. (like ArrCab) Newcomers have to buy these programs, while listening to the rest of us gloat about getting it when it was free. As for COF and FSUIPC, i guess i'll be doing all my carrier landings in FS2002. ::)

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:52 pm
by Wing Nut
You may want to look at this.  I think that it's not totally payware, but certain aspects of it will be.  I could be wrong.

http://forums.simflight.com/viewtopic.php?t=8906

Re: FSUIPC

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:37 pm
by Fozzer
Hi Dread....!

Thanks for the link. Usefull reading... ;)...!
I regularly get E-Mails from the "simFlight Network" regarding programs for sale, (LAGO, etc,), so hopefully they will keep me up-to-date with FSUIPC, we need it for our weather programs, at least!

Cheers mate... ;D...!
Paul.
(England).