A Sad day for PMDG

[GA_Pilot]

Same goes for people who download and copy movies, and music. Those guys probably spend more on that than anyone ever spent designing an aircraft for a game....And people just STEAL their work when they download and/or copy music cd's and movies...Shameful

[t_alexander21]

they'll get their money back at the end of the year...

also, for us Canadians pirating is completely legal so stealing payware is more of a moral question

[JRoc]

they'll get their money back at the end of the year...

also, for us Canadians pirating is completely legal so stealing payware is more of a moral question

Uhh... not quite.  Software piracy is still illegal, with hefty fines for convictions.  The ruling was that downloading copyrighted music appeared legal, but not necessarlily uploading.  It had nothing to do with software.  

[JBaymore]

.............also stealing payware is more of a moral question

Well... at least you are acknowledging that it is stealing.  So that's a start, I guess.  So it is "only" a moral question......... that's a relief.  I thought it was an "important" issue  :(.

So...... how do you justify to yourself (as your comments seem to say here) the overt theft of someone else's property as well as the public advocacy of such acts?

concerned,

................john

[Mynameisnemo]

Posted by: CraigL Posted on: Aug 27th, 2005, 9:39pm
i would have to ask. It took this long? usually these things are done within a day of release. This suggests that PMDG have managed to make it at least difficult for them to crack, and within a couple of releases and improved methods it will become impossible to all but the most stubborn of hacker

Its actually been up there for nearly a month now, i often go round and see a friend and he pointed it out to me and he also pointed out that you can dl fs2002 pro and fs9/2004 aswell.

The Only type of aircraft and scenery that has been downloaded by me are off here, avsim or surclaro (or what google turns up).

i wish there was some sort of programs that company's would come up with to stop this from happening.

Nemo

[Souichiro]

Idea..

When you install a payware plane can't they do it so that you have to fill in a password which can be verified with an IP adress or some sort? so IP and password are related to eachother? DSL has one IP doesn't it? and I can't really Imagine a 56k user dloading a 50+ mb plane or something like it..

[Hai Perso Coyone?]

Idea..

When you install a payware plane can't they do it so that you have to fill in a password which can be verified with an IP adress or some sort? so IP and password are related to eachother? DSL has one IP doesn't it? and I can't really Imagine a 56k user dloading a 50+ mb plane or something like it..

Some designers like the Level-D Simulations have IP tracking built into them. It's something like a "Home Call Feature". It's really cool as they track which IP's they have sold the product to. Pretty good way of keeping hackers at their bay. Other companies include IGFLY with their spectacular Walk and Follow Utility and the TU-154M....
Cheers,
Ashar

[Craig.]

I know FSpassengers has a way of tracking users. The program will be disabled from what i can tell if too many differant IP's register the program with the same name and password.

[GA_Pilot]

Idea..

I can't really Imagine a 56k user dloading a 50+ mb plane or something like it..

I downloaded the Dreamfleet A36 Bonanza on dial-up, before I got broadband. Seems like it was 50-60MB.
Took me 3 1/2 hours though  :o

[ctjoyce]

Well let us now examine this from another prespective. I have LimeWire PRO, and pay the $20 monthly fee, so if I use it to download music, am I stealing, because the way I see it it is no different than buying the tracks from iTunes.  I personally think that if I used Limewire to get a movie, or a piece of software then I would be stealing, but I dont consider downloading music stealing.

Oh also to clearify a bit. The laws in Canada pretaining to file shareing are that downloading is leagle, however hosting, or uploading files is illeagle. The idea is that people will sotp downloading if there is nowhere to get material from, however Canadians got smart, and use American P2P's and just disable the shareing function, so they are perfectly in the law. (see listing to public radio pays off).

Cheers
Cameron

[t_alexander21]

First of all I'm not admitting to stealing payware, I am merely playing "Devil's advocate." Secondly, I feel their is a difference between stealing from a large company, where they can recoup their losses, and stealing from normal citizens where it is far more difficult to gain what has been lost...that's my personal opinion but oh well

[Wing Nut]

Folks, I hate to tell you this, but piracy in FS is a LOT more widespread than you think.  While looking for some Corsair combat footage, I came across one site that had 6 pages of bootleg FS downloads, from pretty much every major builder out there, including Aerosoft, Real Air, Lago, and Abacus....

Unfortunately, piracy is quickly becoming part of the cost of doing business in software.  Some people think that just  because you can do something, you MUST do something and act on impulse without thinking of the moral consequence of their actions.  You need to remember that just because it's there, it doesn't mean you HAVE to take the stuff.  ::)

[Hai Perso Coyone?]

I thought this thread was locked

[Felix/FFDS]

I thought this thread was locked

Selective locking - but we will lock you from expressing your opinion on wallpaper glue drying ....

[Wing Nut]

Selective locking - but we will lock you from expressing your opinion on wallpaper glue drying ....

Would that fall under politics or religion?  :)