Start procedure for wilco 777 engines ?

[tiabu6620]

DOES someone  has the full procedures to start correctly the two engines of the wilco boeing 777-200
sometime i can start them but the two generators eng still stay off
EICAS message "GEN OFF ENG L+R"
so i cannot start the gps the mcp  and also the atc doesn't work so the last solution is to fly with only the apu generator , not cool !
some help thanks

i have already the mike ray procedures pdf

[Slotback]

I don't have the plane, so this is just a guess...

MANUAL START:

APU... ON.
(possible 1 minute warmup period before bleed air turns on, just wait till AVAIL lights up on APU bleed switch, then turn it on)
APU BLEED... ON.
PNEUMATIC ISOLATION VALVES... OPEN.
PACKS... OFF.
ANTI-ICE... OFF.
ENGINE BLEED... ON.
FUEL CUTOFF SWITCH... CUTOFF.
FUEL PUMPS... ON.
ENGINE IGNITION.... IGN, START, or CONT (in that order of preferance).
START VALVE ENGINE TWO... ON AND HOLD.
When N1 / N2 stop increasing (max motor), then FUEL CUTOFF SWITCH.... RUN.
START VALVE ENGINE ONE... ON AND HOLD.
When N1 / N2 stop increasing (max motor), then FUEL CUTOFF SWITCH.... RUN.
L GEN...ON.
R GEN...ON.
PACKS...ON.
APU...OFF.
APU BLEED...OFF.


OR...

AUTOSTART:

APU... ON.
(possible 1 minute warmup period before bleed air turns on, just wait till AVAIL lights up on APU bleed switch, then turn it on)
APU BLEED... ON.
PNEUMATIC ISOLATION VALVES... OPEN.
PACKS... OFF.
ANTI-ICE... OFF.
ENGINE BLEED... ON.
FUEL CUTOFF SWITCH... RUN.
FUEL PUMPS... ON.
ENGINE IGNITION.... IGN, START, or CONT (in that order of preferance).
AUTOSTART SWITCH ENGINE 2.... GO.
(once engine 2 started...)
AUTOSTART SWITCH ENGINE 1... GO.
(once both engines started)
L GEN...ON.
R GEN...ON.
PACKS...ON.
APU...OFF.
APU BLEED...OFF.

I'll try and help with other issues once you can start engines properly. Either one of the above should probably work - but everything there is just off the top of my head and from the MD-80 / 747...

[tiabu6620]

YES it's exactly this order but i have the same problem

i cannot turn the GEN L and GEN R switches ON
they stay to FAULT light in orange and if i clic on the switch it turns OFF

[Slotback]

Any failures? Also, make sure any DRIVE DISC switches are OFF... and also look in options for the plane, and RESET generator drives....

[tiabu6620]

don't find where are the option for the plane

but i resolve my problem : after starting both engines i taped J+1 and J+2 and the two ENG GEN turns on

another question ? how do you turn the TCAS ON ??
because i have also the error message on the eicas "TCAS OFF"

[Slotback]

Shouldn't this stuff be in the manual?

I'll give you a four hints...:
It's on a panel with TCAS written on it.  ::)
It's on the pedestal.
TA stands for traffic advisory
RA stands for resolution advisory....

Is that enough?

[tiabu6620]

i think i found it
it's near the squawk TARA
how does it work he will notice me on the nearest traffic by an allert ?