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ATP Checkride (?)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:05 pm
by simone_lux
Hi,

Does anyone of you have the ATP certificate ??? >:(

I tried several times to pass the checkride. Except for the taking off where the examiner gently fail your engine 1, the rest of the exam is quite easy, but I ALWAYS fail during the hold: I follow the instructions and enter the hold radial in the correct way, but after I make the second loop I fail the exam ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I did the lesson of the VOR hold several times, and every time I get the best from the "instructor".

What the heck the examiner want me to hold ?????????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks if anyone knows that,
Ciao !!

Simone 8)

Re: ATP Checkride (?)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:54 pm
by OTTOL
The best road to satisfaction, re: the ATP checkride, is to download the B-52 or B-1, file a flight from anywhere to Seattle, fly said flight and bomb the office of the M$ programming team.
Honestly, the program is full of holes and any problem passing, is a matter of PROGRAMMING versus flying technique.
This topic came up a month or so ago. My interest was piqued, so I tried the ATP ride. Keep in mind, that I am a Jet Captain who possesses a real ATP, and who teaches others to fly jets..    First of all, the examiner doesn't talk to you at times for more than five minutes. On a REAL ride, there is non-stop instruction and evaluation. The other big gripe that I had was the fact that I was failed for "improper hold entry".......sound familiar? Are you listening Microsoft? You can't be failed for improper hold ENTRY! !    Holding on the wrong side, in the wrong direction,  off of the wrong radial, on the non-safe side....... YES        ENTRY?.........NO!
Entry procedures are in the AIM, and are RECOMMENDED not mandatory.

Re: ATP Checkride (?)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:21 am
by packercolinl
KILL!! FANG!! KILL!!


Thanks OTTOL,I appreciate your posts very much.

Cheers :)

Re: ATP Checkride (?)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:25 pm
by OTTOL
                               ;D

Re: ATP Checkride (?)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:01 pm
by Dan
I get a similar thing with the PPL on the steep turns...
Dan

Re: ATP Checkride (?)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:38 pm
by simone_lux
Thanks Ottol !! ;D ;D ;D ;D

I feel better now, I really get mad about that hold, and thought that I didn't understand at all what it was a real "hold" ??? ;D

If anybody knows whether there are patches that can create a "real" ATP checkride.... welcome !

Ciao !
Simone :)