ATP Checkride (?)

[simone_lux]

Hi,

Does anyone of you have the ATP certificate ???

I tried several times to pass the checkride. Except for the taking off where the examiner gently fail your engine 1, the rest of the exam is quite easy, but I ALWAYS fail during the hold: I follow the instructions and enter the hold radial in the correct way, but after I make the second loop I fail the exam

I did the lesson of the VOR hold several times, and every time I get the best from the "instructor".

What the heck the examiner want me to hold ???????

Thanks if anyone knows that,
Ciao !!

Simone

[OTTOL]

The best road to satisfaction, re: the ATP checkride, is to download the B-52 or B-1, file a flight from anywhere to Seattle, fly said flight and bomb the office of the M$ programming team.
Honestly, the program is full of holes and any problem passing, is a matter of PROGRAMMING versus flying technique.
This topic came up a month or so ago. My interest was piqued, so I tried the ATP ride. Keep in mind, that I am a Jet Captain who possesses a real ATP, and who teaches others to fly jets..    First of all, the examiner doesn't talk to you at times for more than five minutes. On a REAL ride, there is non-stop instruction and evaluation. The other big gripe that I had was the fact that I was failed for "improper hold entry".......sound familiar? Are you listening Microsoft? You can't be failed for improper hold ENTRY! !    Holding on the wrong side, in the wrong direction,  off of the wrong radial, on the non-safe side....... YES        ENTRY?.........NO!
Entry procedures are in the AIM, and are RECOMMENDED not mandatory.

[packercolinl]

KILL!! FANG!! KILL!!


Thanks OTTOL,I appreciate your posts very much.

Cheers

[OTTOL]

                               ;D

[Dan]

I get a similar thing with the PPL on the steep turns...
Dan

[simone_lux]

Thanks Ottol !!

I feel better now, I really get mad about that hold, and thought that I didn't understand at all what it was a real "hold"

If anybody knows whether there are patches that can create a "real" ATP checkride.... welcome !

Ciao !
Simone