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Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:20 am
by potb
Does anybody know if FS2002 has the real life effects programed into it of the Bermuda triangle?

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 6:49 am
by Hagar
Potb. The "Bermuda Triangle" is a myth. It's an imaginary area not included on official maps. The area of the "triangle" has been enlarged over the years to include unexplained events as they occur. I would not expect it to be featured in MSFS.
The U. S. Board of Geographic Names does not recognize the Bermuda Triangle as an official name and does not maintain an official file on the area.

The "Bermuda or Devil's Triangle" is an imaginary area located off the southeastern Atlantic coast of the United States, which is noted for a high incidence of unexplained losses of ships, small boats, and aircraft. The apexes of the triangle are generally accepted to be Bermuda, Miami, Fla., and San Juan, Puerto Rico.

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq8-1.htm

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:27 am
by Smoke2much
Good link Hagar, thanks.

Will

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:49 am
by OTTOL
Potb. The "Bermuda Triangle" is a myth. It's an imaginary area not included on official maps. The area of the "triangle" has been enlarged over the years to include unexplained events as they occur. I would not expect it to be featured in MSFS.
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq8-1.htm
Does this mean they've been lying to me about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny as well?  :( ::)  ..........might make a cool scenery add on!  "There I was, just flying along, when my compass started to go crazy and then the sky started to turn strange colors!!"  .......wait a minute that sounds like the standard M$ programming!  :(

Maybe we're on to something here?! 8)

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:51 am
by Scottler
While it may not be recognized by the government, that doesn't necessarily imply that it is not real.

After all, when one looks at things such as the F-117 Stealth Fighther, the U-2 Spyplane, and the SR-71, the United States repeatedly claimed they weren't real, and now we know that they are.

This is also true for so-called "Area 51".  The US government said for YEARS that there was no such place, yet now we know that there is something there, we just don't know what.  (Whatever it is must be pretty good because if you're too close, the sentries are authorized to kill you.  lol)

I'm not a big conspiracy theorist or anything, and in fact I've flown through the Bermuda Triangle several times without incident...but I think we should be careful when saying that the government doesn't recognize it so it's not real.

Personally, I think something weird does happen out there, but I think it's a scientific phenomenon that no one has been able to pinpoint yet. ;)

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:52 am
by OTTOL
Potb. The "Bermuda Triangle" is a myth. It's an imaginary area not included on official maps. The area of the "triangle" has been enlarged over the years to include unexplained events as they occur. I would not expect it to be featured in MSFS.
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq8-1.htm
Does this mean they've been lying to me about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny as well?  :( ::)  ..........might make a cool scenery add on!  "There I was, just flying along, when my compass started to go crazy and then the sky started to turn strange colors!!"  .......wait a minute that sounds like the standard M$ programming!  :(

Maybe we're on to something here?! 8)

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 10:54 am
by OTTOL
hhmmmmmmmm......strange coincidence? I am in one of the corners right now! ::)

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:24 am
by Hagar
Personally, I think something weird does happen out there, but I think it's a scientific phenomenon that no one has been able to pinpoint yet. ;)

I love all these conspiracy theories. The general public is so gullible they can make a mystery out of anything. Twist a few facts here & a few there & it becomes almost believable. ::)
If you read the articles from my link you will see this.
The majority of disappearances can be attributed to the area's unique environmental features. First, the "Devil's Triangle" is one of the two places on earth that a magnetic compass does point towards true north. Normally it points toward magnetic north. The difference between the two is known as compass variation. The amount of variation changes by as much as 20 degrees as one circumnavigates the earth. If this compass variation or error is not compensated for, a navigator could find himself far off course and in deep trouble.

An area called the "Devil's Sea" by Japanese and Filipino seamen, located off the east coast of Japan, also exhibits the same magnetic characteristics. It is also known for its mysterious disappearances.

Being a realist & fully paid-up cynic this is the only "phenomenon" I believe in. Many 1,000s of people pass safely through this so-called "triangle" every single day. Depending on whose account you read the affected area ranges from 500,000 to 1.5 million square miles. This works on the old premise "if it doesn't fit stretch it a little." ::)

Another environmental factor is the character of the Gulf Stream. It is extremely swift and turbulent and can quickly erase any evidence of a disaster. The unpredictable Caribbean-Atlantic weather pattern also plays its role. Sudden local thunder storms and water spouts often spell disaster for pilots and mariners. Finally, the topography of the ocean floor varies from extensive shoals around the islands to some of the deepest marine trenches in the world. With the interaction of the strong currents over the many reefs the topography is in a state of constant flux and development of new navigational hazards is swift.

Not to be under estimated is the human error factor. A large number of pleasure boats travel the waters between Florida's Gold Coast and the Bahamas. All too often, crossings are attempted with too small a boat, insufficient knowledge of the area's hazards, and a lack of good seamanship.

The Coast Guard is not impressed with supernatural explanations of disasters at sea. It has been their experience that the combined forces of nature and unpredictability of mankind outdo even the most far fetched science fiction many times each year.

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:12 pm
by Smoke2much
To arrange a simulated Bermuda Triangle experience for your flight sim you simply plug your computer in through one of those timer units that puts lights on at night to fool burgalers.  Fly in the area with the time set and at some point your computer will mysteriously shut down.

Spooky or what.

Will

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 8:44 pm
by logjam
It might be spooky, but what about the Santa Claus phenomena? I know that at Midnight on the 24th Dec, a mystical phantom "paint" appears on Radar screens in the North West Territories of Canada and tracks at an incredible speed ina south westerly spiral around the globe. It coincides with the discovery of mounds of Deer droppings in the USA and Burro caca in Mexico, as well (as I understand) Kangaroo crap in Australia. The Russians claim it's due to the millions of flight sim pilots chasing dreams all at the same time. It was first reported tho in the '50's when President Eisenhower was overheard commenting "Horse sh*t!" when his Mommy told him he wasn't getting any toys.

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 9:04 pm
by OTTOL
is CACA a scientific term, or regional slang?  :D

Re: Bermuda triangle phenomena...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:09 am
by BFMF
Several years ago, a few months before FS2002 was even anounced, MS did a RTW flight with FS2000. A leg was posted every week allowing people to keep up and post they're adventures along the way. It was a lot of fun.

Anyway, the flight took us down the east coast following Florida and through the carribean to South America. I remember one person claiming he was having aircraft problems of some kind over the 'Bermuda Triangle'. He explained what happened while the MS teams were surprised,and who claimed didn't know anything about such a phenomena in FS2000. But nobody else experienced problems.

If anyone is interested I saved everything from that, including flight plans, global map, and the RTW Certificate