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Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:00 pm
by PSW
Hello guys ;),

          I fly in FS2002 as an Air Canada,Air Canada Jazz & Air Canada ZIP pilot.Maybe I will fly Tango too later onI mainly fly using GPS and of course,the autopilot but I never use the radio and I would like to know some things :

1.When I approach my destination,flight-simmers say that I should tune into Approach on AP and adjust a button on my radio stack,what is that button and how does it help?

            2.I never use the radio on all my flights ever since I bought FS2002,Can anyone please tell me the usage of it ?

           


Thank you very much guys.

PSW

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:30 pm
by Travis
Do you mean you've NEVER talked to ATC? :o

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:00 am
by Scottler
As soon as you land, run...don't walk....run to your car.  I have a feeling there are going to be a few men and women in suits waiting to talk to you.

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:36 pm
by KnightHawk
LOL hyperion. ur probably right.

Anyway the atc is pretty self explainitory.  You can have the setting so you just choose what you say and what frequency your on.  You might want to start like that first.

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:43 pm
by PH_AJH
The replies of Ender and Hype are understandable ( ;D) but they just might not have answered your questions....

To start with question 2: the point of ATC is well...nothing important really, if all you want to do is fly along. As you found out you can happily fly along for hours without it. It's just not very realistic this way.
Using ATC simulates real aviation. In real world flying you can't just take off and fly around; you need permision from ATC for most every thing you do (except maybe farting and nose-picking but I'm not sure about this 8).

ATC gives you permision to do things (or not) and gives you instructions in order to avoid collisions with other aircraft etc. This starts with taxiing and ends with parking. Every move between these two has to be reported to ATC and every instruction has to be carried out. Also when using flightplans ("using" in this case means: first create a flightplan, file it with ATC on the "clearance delivery"  frequency and then fly it according to the instructions you are being given) ATC gives you vectors you have to follow. This makes the flying a lot more complicated as you can not just go 1000 feet up or down, or change heading etc.

So how to use ATC?
I suggest you read the ATC section in the manual.

About the approach/AP thing: please note that the following is not a tutorial, it is just a rough description of the possibilities.
You may have noticed that most runways have ILS equipment. It is possible to "autoland" a plane using this system. It will stay on the correct heading and on the glideslope towards the runway, up to touchdown. All you have to do is regulate speed (manually or using autothrottle/speed hold), set flaps, gear down etc. (oh and stay in touch with ATC of course :D)
To achieve this you should tune VOR1 to the ILS freqency of the runway you're gonna land on (using the NAV1 button on the radio stack or mouse-clicking on the digits). You should also dial the runway heading into the "course selector".
Now fly towards the runway you want to land on (or are being told to by ATC), about 2000 feet above the ground over the outer marker. You should see the lines on the HSI move, indicating your position relative to the glideslope. As soon as their are moving (indicating that you are near the correct position on the glideslope) hit the "app" button on the AP controls. The plane will automatically move towards, and then follow the glideslope. Moments before touchdown disengage the autopilot and do the flare manually.

That's it really. Hope this is of any help.

Cheers
AJ

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 3:04 pm
by PSW
I am sorry guys but I think you guys misunderstood me.I use the ATC but not the radio stack.Can anyone answer my questions ? Thank you.

James

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 3:28 pm
by PH_AJH
I don't get it.  :P
What do you want to know about the radiostack?  ???If it is about your question 1 (
flight-simmers say that I should tune into Approach on AP and adjust a button on my radio stack,what is that button and how does it help?
then I would think the answer is in my reply. You can't tune your VOR to a specific ILS system without using the radiostack.
Maybe what confuses you is the fact that FS2002 automatically changes frequencies for you when changing stations. This way it may appear as if you don't need the radio stack most of the time. If you want to set frequencies yourself however, you will have to use it.

If still not answered, please be more specific.

Cheers
AJ

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 3:37 pm
by Skotguard
[quote]As soon as you land, run...don't walk....run to your car.

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 3:44 pm
by Nexus
Umm...if you're using the atc, then you're using the radiostack, sort of.

The menu with the ATC commands are like shortcuts, so instead of bringing up the radiostack you simply click on the number of your choice in the ATC window. So you DONT need to MANUALLY turn the COM radio!

When using the NAV radio, you enter the freqs of VOR stations, DME's, ILS...so if you use ILS for landing aid, you've utilised the NAV radios

Then we have the ADF transponder, which is a very primitive navaid nowadays, but nontheless, it is still being used at some remote airtports around the world. The ADF (Automatic Direction Finder) will show up as an arrow (I think it's red on the default 737) on the radio magnetic indicator, telling you which direction the ADF is located.

In a real airliner you'd also find the TCAS and the weather radar in the radiostack. but apparantly MS opted not to include it

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:10 am
by Scottler
The problem with Ender and Hyp is that when we don't know the answer to something, our smart a$$ side kicks into overdrive.

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:07 am
by Travis
LMFAO!!  You damn right! ;D

Re: Beginner's Flight

PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 3:25 am
by overandout
Hi there :)

You can of course experiment with a far superior ATC system to the "embedded" one in FS 2002.  You may be interested to visit this site.........

http://www.jdtllc.com/

Regards
Roger