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Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:53 pm
by pcpilot
hey gang, hopefully you can help me, i'm trying to complete the PP checkride and after the 360 steep turn the instructor goes away(no more instructions) is there a patch(fix) for this, on my first try i lost too much altitude and she says i will have to try again, on the second try i was succesfull and she says, "good job" but thats all i here from here PLEASE HELP
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:52 pm
by Travis
Hey, moderators! Could someone make this a sticky topic, please? It tends to get asked often . . .
The basic answer is--LEAVE IT ALONE! There seems to be something wrong with the checkrides, in that very few people can get the Private Pilot Checkride to go beyond that point, and most of the others have problems, too.
It always occurs after that one turn, and then she never comes back (guess she went out to lunch!) I have never heard of a fix for this, so I just leave it be. I would suggest you do this, or you can keep trying. Some people have succeeded.
Good Luck, Good Flying!

Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:54 pm
by WebbPA
I've never bothered with any of the certificate flights but I see questions about them popping up a lot.
This may help
http://support.microsoft.com/default.as ... -us;315203
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:47 am
by RollerBall
There's nothing wrong with the checkride. If you can fly the Cessna properly you will pass it

For starters just look back at the zillions of times this question has been answered and then go and hone up your flying skills.
BTW you WON'T pass it if you wait for the Instructor to tell you what to do after the steep tun. You're expected to know how to do an approach and landing without being told. If you can't, well tough

Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:17 am
by packercolinl
Does this qualify as a Frequently Asked Question and perhaps should be directed to that Forum area by our most magnificent Moderators

Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Mon Sep 08, 2003 8:57 am
by Scottler
There's nothing wrong with the checkride. If you can fly the Cessna properly you will pass it
Not entirely true. You can be a good "pilot" and still not pass the PPL checkride, simply because of the bugs in the programming.
I've been able to do it twice, but that's out of about 100 attempts. It's not impossible, but it might as well be, because there's very little room for error, especially on the steep turn.
My advice, skip it. The lessons are great, but the checkrides are awful. This has been proven dozens of times by the threads about this very subject that we've all seen in the past.
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Mon Sep 08, 2003 9:03 am
by BannedThrice
[quote]
Not entirely true.
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:23 am
by pcpilot
thanks for your help, however rollerball is wrong she does give you headings, on my first attempt after the steep turn she had me do a right turn to 180 and gave the pattern altitude, but anyway the answer is still the same, AI in this game is buggy. infact it down right sucks!
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:36 am
by Scottler
Not all of it, PCPilot. Some of it is pretty good, but not as good as say, ProjectAI stuff. lol (Can you tell I'm a huge fan?) haha
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:05 pm
by BannedThrice
But the good thing is that learning lessons have been significantly improved in FS2004. I didn't come across a single lesson wherein the instructor cut short the lesson due to non-compliance. Moreover, the lessons are neatly documented and also the charts are made available in-game itself, so that we don't have to open the game folder and look for a specific chart as in FS2002.
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

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Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:44 pm
by Scottler
Lessons being terminated prematurely were never an issue here, Banned. What's being asked is about the checkrides, which if you're not careful, will be terminated before you complete them.
For example, if you scare the crap outta your check ride examiner, she'll haul you back to Rod's classroom by the ear.
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Mon Sep 08, 2003 9:39 pm
by Smoke2much
The check rides are possible to complete, they are bugged but if you get lucky and it runs properly and you managed to fly very acurately exactly as you are supposed to you will pass.
I have the PPL and the CPL, one of the major bugs in the CPL was that at one point the examiner would tell you that he was covering some of the instruments. Sometimes the instruments would remain visible and then when you had to do the approach and land when he said he was revealing them they would disappear.
Looking at the FAQ links to microsoft for the PPL that tipster posted a while back it shows that you have to be very accurate to pass the PPL, in the tight turn you have to keep within stringent limits, if you go out of them you fail. As Hyperion said he has passed twice in about 100 attempts, I passed the CPL once in a similar number of attempts. I haven't tried it again.
What I'm trying (failing :-/) to say is that whilst the lessons/checkrides are bugged don't just assume that your inability to pass is the fault of microsofts programming. You have to be extremley good "on the day" to do it. It makes them even more of an acheivement when you do get them.
Will
PS I'm nominating myself for the "Why use 10 words when 50 will do award" for long winded posters!
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:59 am
by BannedThrice
PS I'm nominating myself for the "Why use 10 words when 50 will do award" for long winded posters!
Don't worry, I will vote for ya!
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:52 am
by Scottler
Don't look now, Will, but you agreed with me once more. What's happening to you?
Re: Private Pilot Checkride

Posted:
Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:35 pm
by Smoke2much
It's either:
A. Nightshift psychosis
or
B. I agree with you more than I let on, but your just too much fun to argue with

Will