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Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:52 pm
by WebbPA
What's the deal?  I autoarm the spoilers and I can see the lever move.  When I hit the ground they don't deploy.

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 12:42 am
by JohnP
:)What type of plane are you flying? Or is it with all of them? It is possible that since you are seeing the lever move and no visual effects, then the plane does not have visual spoilers.

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 12:50 am
by WebbPA
I've tested this with several different planes, notably the default Boeings.  Even if visual spoilers aren't in effect there is no change in the throttle quad.  Can you tell me where it does work?

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:31 am
by JohnP
:)The only setting you can check is in FS2002 for assignments. Check to see what is assigned for the spoilers. As a rule the "/" key is the one that wil manually control the spoilers. Question, Will the spoilers manually deploy? The only thing on your throttle quardrant that will move is the spoiler lever and not the throttles. When reverse thrust is applied, they will down from the idle position.
If you have air ed you could look at the air.cfg file and look around line 337(Spoiler Auto Deploy Available). This statement should be "True".
Hope this helps a little, if not post again and I will try another approach.
P.S. When arming the spoilers are you moving the Spoiler lever to the Arm position?

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 8:12 am
by Lethal.Ambition
I thought [SHIFT[ P armed then in the air so when it hit the ground they would start and slow the plane.........

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 8:57 am
by JohnP
:)You are probably right about shift P. That is the keyboard command. You would arm them in the air, so when you hit the runway, they will deploy.

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:37 am
by morota
I thougt [Shift+P] =Pushback. The keyboard command I use is [Shift+?or/] =Spoiler Autoarm, then F2 for reverse thrusters, but the autospoiler won't deploy untill your nose gear has touched down.

8)Moe

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:09 am
by JohnP
:) As a rule you are right about shift+P. However, you can go into the Fs2002 assignments and assign any key combinations for different functions. This is customizable for each users tastes. You are also right in that the spoilers will not auto deploy until until the nosegear "hits" the runway.

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 12:47 pm
by WebbPA
"Shift + /" is the default command to autoarm spoilers and "/" to deploy them.  Sit on the ground in one of the default Boeings, open the throttle quadrant and hit /.  You will see the lever move.  Then go outside and you can see the spoilers deployed.

Then get in the air and hit Shift +/.  The lever moves to the "armed" position.  When you land it will still be in the "armed" position but the spoilers don't deploy.

I've checked several of the .cfg files with notepad and AirEd and none of them has a line even remotely similar to "spoiler auto deploy".

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 12:57 pm
by JohnP
:)The line I was referring to is in the Air.cfg file for the Microsoft Boeing 737-400. I am going to try this with that particular plane and will let you know the results.

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:36 pm
by JohnP
:)I did a couple of practice runs with the Microsoft Boeing 737-400 and left the throttle quardrant in view. I then set the spoilers to arm and landed. Once landed I noticed that when the reverse thrusters were applied the spoilers went into the UP position. When reverse thrust was removed the spoilers went back into their normal down position.

Re: Autoarm spoilers

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:40 pm
by WebbPA
Thanks, John,

I just tried it in the 737 and it worked the same way.