MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Tue May 20, 2003 8:10 pm
by WebbPA
I've tried several fixes to make the default (AI) MD-83 flyable. None of them work. No matter what my airspeed (<160) I get an "Above extension airspeed" message and the gear refuses to extend.
Has anyone gotten this to work? If so please send me your .cfg and .air files (actual tested and working files only).
I thought I had it licked last week but to no avail.
Should I just download alternate MD-83's for flying.
Here's a portion of my current (nonfunctional) .cfg file it that helps.
[contact_points]
point.0=1, -9.20, 0.00, -8.0, 1500, 0, 1.08, 25.0, 1.00, 2.5, 0.9, 7.0, 5.0, 0, 120, 250
point.1=1, -83.10, -8.33, -9.4, 3000, 1, 1.85, 0.0, 1.50, 2.5, 0.8, 7.0, 7.0, 2, 120, 250
point.2=1, -83.10, 8.33, -9.4, 3000, 2, 1.85, 0.0, 1.50, 2.5, 0.8, 7.0, 7.0, 3, 120, 250
point.3=2, -95.75, -53.92, -1.0, 1200, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 5
point.4=2, -98.75, 53.92, -1.0, 1200, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 6
point.5=2, -139.00, 0.00, 3.0, 1200, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 9
point.6=2, -3.00, 0.00, 0.0, 1200, 0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 4
max_number_of_points=21
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 12:03 am
by ozzy72
Jim what mods exactly have you made to the MD?
Ozzy
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 10:39 am
by WebbPA
The only mods I made were to the air and cfg files, and added a panel. I'll try Microlight's fix as soon as I get off work and let you know.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 11:18 am
by WebbPA
I tried so many variations on this seemingly simple modifications that I had to go back and reinstall the aircraft.
Microlight's fix didn't work. The plane crashes while sitting on the runway - crash, reset, crash, reset, etc.
The mod I'm using now, which still doesn't work, is from fs2002.com - it just replaces the air and cfg files and adds a panel (alias 737). I've gotten about 4 different mods from various sim sites but they all have the same problem.
So I guess I'm back to my original question - does anyone have a fix that actually works.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 12:03 pm
by FSTipster
I've always used md83fly3.zip by Tom Miller without any problems.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 12:30 pm
by WebbPA
That's the one I'm using. Dated 11/07/01. Can you send me copies of your air and cfg files?
Since everyone else's works I'll try this as a last ditch and then assume it's a deeper problem with my system.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 3:29 pm
by microlight
Sorry my cfg and air files didn't work - they work fine for me. Perhaps it is more of a system hiccup - good luck tracking it down.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 4:25 pm
by WebbPA
It was taking way too long to figure out the problem so I just downloaded another one. Since it works on everyone else's system it must just be a bug in mine.
Thanks all.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 4:52 pm
by microlight
Shame - I had another suggestion ...
Here's your original 1st 3 contact point lines:
[contact_points]
point.0=1, -9.20, 0.00, -8.0, 1500, 0, 1.08, 25.0, 1.00, 2.5, 0.9, 7.0, 5.0, 0, 120, 250
point.1=1, -83.10, -8.33, -9.4, 3000, 1, 1.85, 0.0, 1.50, 2.5, 0.8, 7.0, 7.0, 2, 120, 250
point.2=1, -83.10, 8.33, -9.4, 3000, 2, 1.85, 0.0, 1.50, 2.5, 0.8, 7.0, 7.0, 3, 120, 250
Change the last 2 figures from 120 and 250, to 250 and 300. I amended my .cfg file to the figures you quote, and the gear would not come down, just like yours. Then I replaced the figures as above, and it works.

Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 5:06 pm
by WebbPA
I'll give it a try. It would be nice to know what the problem was.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 5:17 pm
by Hagar
[quote]I'll give it a try.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Wed May 21, 2003 9:13 pm
by FSTipster
[quote]That's the one I'm using.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2003 6:53 am
by WebbPA
It works! Thanks for all your help. I applied Microlight's fix and everything works fine.
Tipster's md83fly3.zip (11/22/01) is apparently a newer version of md83fa.zip (11/07/01) by the same author, but it uses the contact points recommended by Microlight while my older version used the MS defaults.
I'm not sure who Bhofmx is, but your .cfg file still uses the MS default contact points and there's no radio configured. If it works for you that's great. I'll send you md83fly3.zip if you would like, or you could just cut and paste the radio configuration from the 737 if the flight model works.
Re: MD-83 still won't fly

Posted:
Thu May 22, 2003 12:30 pm
by x
I was reg. under bhofmx and got hit
by a hacker, this is the only site I.m
reg. on, cost $150 to get it fixed. my
computor guy told me to reg. under
another name and address and see what
happens, yesterday I was hit agin, while
uploading the file to you!
My md83 works great and has full radio
functions, you may have a airport problem?
Have you tried another AP?
I did my own reload last night!!!
9 hours, had to reload mother borad and
all the drivers and fs2k2 and cfs2 and
now I lost about 400 aircraft and all
my scerney, 18 months of work,
I'll still check the forums but not stay
logged on unless I'm posting.