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Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:16 am
by Smoke2much
You are at 24,000 feet flying a B747-400 when you lose your port outer angine and autopilot simultaneously.  You need to declare an emergency and land as soon as possible.  How many members on this site feel confident that they could do this on the simulator.

I have voted for No as to be frank I would stand more chance of survival if I simply opened the door of the plane and jumped out. ;)

Will

Re: Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:09 am
by ozzy72
I reckon I could Will, but then I've regularly taken the 747 to the limit and know the aircraft well.
Good poll though.

Ozzy

Re: Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:07 am
by packercolinl
What about a real life scenario.
Fully loaded 737 at 35000',30nm from an island in the Azores with total engine out. Land it safely blowing 10(12?) tyres under braking.
Forgotten the airline but it was Canadian.

Re: Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:14 am
by ATI_7500
i would get the 747 down onto the nearest airfield or runway.

Re: Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:01 am
by codered
No problem.  I believe the 747 is able to go without 2 maybe 3 engines in real life.  Now if you were to loose all hydralics and an engine, then that would be a different story.  The crew of a DC-10 that landed the aircraft with no hydraulics and the tail engine out.  That was amazing.  They had to use thrust from the left and right engine to turn the aircraft.  It was amazing that anyone survived that fire ball.

Re: Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:43 am
by Tequila Sunrise
easy in a sim, forget about real life

Re: Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:21 pm
by phil509
Im sure this could be done if:A,there was no fire. B,atleast one hydraulic system and flight controls remained intact.C,ability to find runway long enough (you may not have thrust reversers)Boeing claims controld flight can be maintained on ONE engine.I think the procedure would be somthing like;Dump exess fuel,set rudder/elevator trim to compensate,throttle up good three engines,cut fuel/electrical to dead engine,determine gear/brakes/flaps status,declare emergency and get clearance to nearest suitable runway.If no airport is to be had,ditching is an option-or if all else fails,go for the nearest corn field!Under this scenario-the loss of one engine,and ONLY the autopilot,not the rest of the electrical system,I think the flight could continue on to its destination without the passengers even knowing there was a problem,but I could be out to lunch on all this.We need an actual 747 pilot to chime in on this and educate us.Strange this topic should pop up,as just last night I was practicing barrel rolls in 707-200,as was done the -80 prototype :o

Re: Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:26 pm
by phil509
[quote]No problem.

Re: Realism of Flight

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 9:41 pm
by ysteinbuch
Codered,
You are referring to United flight 232, which on July 19, 1989, was en route from Denver to Chicago