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I've asked Ozzy to lock that thread when he appears and start a continuation.

Unfortunately the software has crippled it slightly by not displaying "new" when new messages are added and only showing up to page 4 in the topic index (on page 8 at the time of writing).

If you want to see new messages in that topic, open it on page 4 and click the last page number at the bottom of the thread for now.

Anyone wanna spam this guy? Why not upload bogus files to him? They are aren't tracable, and you can send him all the junk you wish. Zip some porn, or how bout a couple hundred copies of the "FSpirate.com pic, or simply download stuff off his site and upload it again. That should give him some extra work to take up his valuable time.

Gumby unfortunately a lot of those fun things are in fact illegal. Bummer I know, but we can't break the law, as it makes us no better than him. Alas. But I do hope he contracts a serious personal and incuriable disease.... Oh and his system gets hit by some kind of nasty virus that causes it to spontaneously combust or something.... It couldn't happen to a more deserving individual

Ozzy

[glb]FS2002tipster
If you are unenployed as you stated - I suggest you - to get out and find yourself a job to secure you a stable future -  - just a suggestion by an old folk! that is what should take priority in your life.

balbo  :D[/glb]

[quote][glb]FS2002tipster
If you are unenployed as you stated - I suggest you - to get out and find yourself a job to secure you a stable future -

"Beery, of course all files should be copyrighted, otherwise it becomes a free-for-all where individuals can take what they wish, and claim it as their own."

Oh no!!!  Whatever shall we do?  All these files being claimed by folks who didn't create them.  The world will undoubtedly end.  ::)

I've never claimed copyright on any patch I've made.  In fact I've actively encouraged people to steal my stuff, mess with it, and claim it as their own if they wish.  Heck, they can sell it if they want to - I don't need the money, maybe they do, and jolly good luck to them.  You want to take a guess as to how many folks have claimed any of my stuff as their own in the last 7 years since I made my first patch?  Not one, and my Red Baron 3D patch was probably the most popular download for that game.

In my opinion this is a non-issue.  There just are not that many people stalking the intellectual property of others in the add-on community.  Sure, there are always a few people willing to exploit the system in any society, but that's no reason to make the whole system unusable for the vast majority of folks who just want to share the knowledge and add to it.  This is what's happening here with this apparent obsession with copyright - we're getting so paranoid about a very few bad apples that we're throwing out the whole basket and spoiling it for everyone else.  What does it matter if someone steals our work?  It's not like we're asking to get paid for it in the first place, so why does the fact that someone might be turning a profit (in part from our labours) suddenly change our viewpoint?

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand why it would be a bad thing if, as you say, 'it becomes a free-for-all where individuals can take what they wish, and claim it as their own'.

If us designers did not impose restrictions on our files, more people would try to make money off of our work.

I respect your opinion, but I just don't want people making a profit off of my hard work

What a good idea!! Hadn't thought of that..

I do not know your age - perhaps you are a young man - and time of changes will come in your life -   - If you are an aged man - like me - your priority will only to be healty and be alive!  - with thoughs for your inners family!    - -   God Bless you!

Balbo

You know, I reckon I should give a little background regarding why I feel so strongly on this subject.

If us designers did not impose restrictions

Anyway - even if somebody will make money with your or mine freeware - - what does change for you???  after all the main goal is to offer your work to as many simmers as you can - - that is why you design it - -  is it??  that should be your only goal!!!!   and what is keeping the whole thing floating!!!    Design a file - - as freeware  - - and then restricting distribution - - you are better off not to do it - - or just keep your little darling  sitting nicely on your desktop!!  just for your own pleasure.

balbo

A lot of designers, me included, impose distribution  restrictions on our free files and as long as people ask, a lot of designers gladly allow someone to modify, alter, and post online

[quote]...Design a file - - as freeware

Well - in any forum opinions will differ. The freedom to express and share them is what forums are all about.

I respect the opinions made, whether I agree with them or not. In this instance, my own wishes regarding the files I've published differ with Beery's and Balboray's That doesn't make me wrong and it doesn't make them wrong either. It's just a matter of where you sit on the playing field.

I'll explain my licence one more time for the benefit of anyone who didn't see my explanation in the last thread:

It specifically restricts distribution of my files to Simviation.com unless my permission has been granted to do this elsewhere.

There are 2 reaasons for this:

1) I want to support the Simviation website.

2) I don't want to support FSPlanet.

Extract from my licence:

This is simply to avoid actions of piracy. Almost all freeware sites will be granted permission.

FSPlanet make money from their advertising and their First Class membership fees. They wouldn't make very much if they didn't infringe licences without the authors permission as that appears to be where the bulk of their files come from.

If Ferdy observed the courtesy of requesting permission from authors like myself, this wouldn't be an issue. He doesn't. So I have no wish to make his site any more attractive to potential money-makers for FSPlanet by providing my files there.

As stated in my licence, most freeware sites would be granted permission to distribute it if they wished. All they have to do is ask. It's a simple matter of courtesy.

[quote]A lot of designers, me included, impose distribution

Anyone wanna spam this guy? Why not upload bogus files to him? They are aren't tracable, and you can send him all the junk you wish. Zip some porn, or how bout a couple hundred copies of the "FSpirate.com pic, or simply download stuff off his site and upload it again. That should give him some extra work to take up his valuable time.

i was think of this too, then sadly i remembered, as ozzy pointed out it is illegal, and sadly it is very tracable.