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When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 3:59 am
by dizzyweather
Hallo there!
I'm flying the Baron and I'm wondering when to use the Aileron trim and the Rudder trim.

I've noticed that when I'm clicking the Aileron trim Knob the aircraft start turning.

Would be very grateful if someone could explain the concept behind these knobs..

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 5:00 am
by liran_bar
Hallo there!
I'm flying the Baron and I'm wondering when to use the Aileron trim and the Rudder trim.

I've noticed that when I'm clicking the Aileron trim Knob the aircraft start turning.

Would be very grateful if someone could explain the concept behind these knobs..


Hey dizzyweather,
the trims are ment to keep you on course without you having to keep correcting the heading/bank angle.

you should use the Aileron trim when for some reason you are not balanced (one side of the aircraft is heavier than the other).

you should use the rudder trim when you have some crosswind..... (you probably know that when you have crosswind you set the heading somewhere between the course you want to fly and where the wind come from) this will make the airplane turn without any bank angle.....


all trims (Ailerons, rudder and pich) are small parts at the end of the wing the can move up or down/left or right to generate lift power to the other side..... just like the wings but smaller....


Hope I made it all clear,

Liran Bar, Israel

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 5:25 am
by dizzyweather
Thanks Liran Bar!

I've got it now...

BTW, Can't see any use of the Aileron Trim in the Baron because the aircraft always is balanced in FS 2002?
Is that correct?

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 5:49 am
by liran_bar
ummmmmm I am not too familiar with the baron..... but you got it right.... in FS the ailerons are pretty much useless.... the Aileron are mainly used in reality when the passengers sit on one side or there in cases of falling cargo or fuel leaks.....

Liran Bar, Israel

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 5:58 am
by dizzyweather
It would be great if there was a freeware program that could change the payload in the aircraft.. Perhaps anyone know such a program?

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:17 am
by Hagar
Basically, different trim settings are used throughout a flight. Neutral trim is only effective in one particular situation, let's say cruising speed at normal operating altitude. A well trimmed aircraft is much easier to fly.

This is more apparent with a prop aircraft like the Baron as you have the prop torque & P-factor to take into consideration. How effective it is in the sim depends on your realism settings.

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:47 am
by Fozzer
Just before take-off I trim the elevator to just below the centre line for extra lift, then re-trim, centre or just above, for hands-off cruise and highest speed, after achieving my desired altitude.
I don't normally bother with the rudder or aileron trim unless there are very strong side winds.

I good tip I use for short-field take-offs is to apply 1 stage of flaps when just up to take-off speed, It almost throws you into the air...!
...just remember to re-set them back to zero shortly after...!
LOL...!

(This applies to my single engined prop planes).... ;)...!

Cheers...
Paul.
(England).

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 1:58 pm
by WebbPA
If you want to change the payload you can transfer fuel.  Make one tank empty or turn off the crossfeed.

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 1:26 am
by dizzyweather
Well thanks guys!

It's incredible how much you learn on this forum..

And WebbPA, thanks for tips on the fueltanks, have to try that..

My hat is off for you guys!

Re: When to use Aileron & Rudder trim knobs?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2003 1:42 pm
by liran_bar
;D
yeah I completely agree with you.... every thing I know about flight simming I have learned here! (or from tutorials on this site...)


Liran Bar, Israel