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curious Baron 58 flight dynamics

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2003 3:44 pm
by J G Parker
Any Baron 58 pilots out there? I've noticed something odd about this A/C's ceiling and cruise. The reported ceiling is FL200 but if I climb to anywhere near this I can't get into a straight and level configuration. The difficulty is that the Manifold pressure drops with altitude (as expected) such that above 10000 if is approaching 15 in. To keep a climb I need to compensate with increasing pitch up. By the time I reach FL195 for example, I'm about 15 dg nose up with an IAS of about 100. Clearly unacceptable. Further, to level off I must still keep the nose up 10, and can only travel slowly. If I put the plane in a level configuration there is no power setting that will hold it up, and it loses altitude pretty quickly. I've found I can't fly straight and level above 9000. I've played with the prop RPM and mixture, but nothing boosts power enough to let me cruise above 9-10000 at anything close to the IAS 170kn that the MS help says should be possible. What am i doing wrong? Thanks!
Re: curious Baron 58 flight dynamics

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2003 3:54 pm
by FSTipster
The Baron Flight dynamics have been dramatically improved by FSD, who recently released FSDtwinS.zip.
It's much more accurate than the default, but beware - if you have anything but the default Baron panel installed, the auto-installer will lash it up.
You can extract it to a temporary folder, but the replacement gauges FSD provide don't always workk straight away.
The only thing I found wrong with FSDs version was the empty weight value, which wasn't out by much compared to the manufacturer's spec.
Re: curious Baron 58 flight dynamics

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:07 pm
by J G Parker
Thanks Tipster! Coincidentally, I downloaded your panel a couple of days ago and was planning to install it this week end when I have the chance. I saw the reference to FSD in your readme but it was "greek" to me. Sound like I should get this first then, and then add your panel? BTW, sorry the FSplanet people behaved like jerks. What you've done is a great service and my hat's off to u.
Re: curious Baron 58 flight dynamics

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:14 pm
by FSTipster
Well if you've got my panel it's actually a lot easier.
Install to a temporary directory and just cut the gauges and .air and aircraft.cfg files to the usual folders.
My panel.cfg takes care of the rest.
Thanks for the sentiments re: FSPlanet.
Re: curious Baron 58 flight dynamics

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2003 7:48 pm
by J G Parker
Okay, I give up...Where do I find FSDtwinS.zip? Seems like something i should know, but...
Re: curious Baron 58 flight dynamics

Posted:
Thu Mar 06, 2003 7:52 pm
by FSTipster
If it's not in the library here, I think you'll find it at Avsim.com or Flightsim.com - definitely one or the other (or both).