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Could some nice person out there give me some advice on the very last stages of landing. I have the ILS and approach sussed now...... it's just the flaring.

I seem to either flare too early and the plane "floats" for a few metres or I flare too late trying to avoid this floating and smash up the undercarriage!!!

I'm generally pretty sound on smaller stuff liek cessnas and beechcraft. It's the big stuff like the tripple 7s and 747s.

Should I be staring at the altitude guage to get an idea of how fast the ground is approaching or should I look outside and try to guestimate when to flare??

Any help would be appreciated. Cheers

Hello there mate,

Flaring is easy, you should watch the vertical speed guage when you are on short finals, and you should make sure that it's at around 600-900 feet per min, and in the 747 make sure you're at around 175 knots, until about 100 feet, the 777 can approach at around 165.  You should get one of those panels that come with altitude callouts, it's a great help, you should flare at 20-30 feet above the runway, by the way to answer your question.  Good luck and carry on flying.

Greg

Your attention should be given to your target landing spot on the runway.  This is usually the numbers.  Focus on this spot until you are about 100ft or so, depending on the size of your aircraft, then put your focus down the runway, almost to the end, during your flare.  Practice makes perfect.

That's one thing about a simulator that makes ot very difficult. Your meant to judge your height visually when flaring, but you're confined to one tiny monitor, and have little depth perception (unless you have 3D glasses).

I always thought flairing was left to small aircraft where the throttle reaction time is much faster than a larger commercial aircraft.

Large aircraft depend on AoA and slow easy rate of decent to achieve their landings......... Don't they?

As far as I know, all planes flare.  Large aircraft flare because they descend towards the runway at an angle, and it's also for achieving a smooth touchdown, especially in the real heavies.  Also if you didn't flare, you'd touch down with the front landing gear, then guess what happens to the gear.

Greg

I only know of one that doesn't, and as usual, I can't remember it's name lol.

The reason it doesn't flare is that (apparently) the undercarriage isn't sufficiently strong to bear the weight of the aircraft on the main wheels only.

Wish I could remember what it is...

Tipster, Isnt it the ATR42-500 that you dont flare on landing - Full Speed straight in approach?  I believe there was some discussion on that one just a few weeks ago.
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[quote] Tipster, Isnt it the ATR42-500 that you dont flare on landing - Full Speed straight in approach?

[quote]Hello there mate,

Flaring is easy, you should watch the vertical speed guage when you are on short finals, and you should make sure that it's at around 600-900 feet per min, and in the 747 make sure you're at around 175 knots, until about 100 feet, the 777 can approach at around 165.