Guess what just turned up at FSPLANET

[Selbio]

Selby,

It's not a bad idea but if I seriously thought my file was up there through a genuine mistake, this thread wouldn't exist.

Tipster,

I didn't mean it like that. I just thought of that to avoid future conflicts with people like that guy Ferdy or whatever his name is also to avoid the headache this causes the designers.

[FSTipster]

It's anybody's guess whether or not he bothers reading the readmes and licence documents.

One thing is certain though - he has the opportunity and time to do it. Look at his screenshots. He's modified mine (and several others up there by the look of it) so he'd had to have unzipped it and spent time doing the revised shot.

Th B1B graphics are actually very good I have to have say, but the layout and animation is not the work of I3D - Ferdy or one of his associates has devoted a good deal of time to that. If he'd have spent 5 minutes of it e-mailing the authors, he'd possibly have been granted the licence to publish it legally too as you and other have stated.

Inexcusable to me I'm afraid.

[FSTipster]

Tipster,

I didn't mean it like that. I just thought of that to avoid future conflicts with people like that guy Ferdy or whatever his name is also to avoid the headache this causes the designers.

I think you may have misunderstood my meaning Selby.

I meant that if I thought Ferdy had a made a mistake - not you or I.

I suspect that even if the screenshot had have had "NOT TO BE PUBLISHED AT FSPLANET.COM" all over it, he'd have just replaced it with his own.

He's not one for takng any notice of such things unfortunately.

[Guruswarmyoz]

Wouldn't it be a good idea to write " YOU DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO UPLOAD THIS SOFTWARE FILES... AT WWW.FSPLANET.COM *coughs PIRATE.* on the readme file from now on?

THis way they'd know better than that.

I actually do put that disclaimer in my readme files - if you look at the readme for my PC9, T-6II you'll see that.

[BFMF]

Guess what I just found. I found a RAF Hawk T1 by DSBDesign on fsplanet.com. I downloaded it and here's a quote from the disclaimer in the readme file:

Do not make any kind of changes to the plane or the documentation without the written permission and acceptance of DSB Design. Also do not include this package on any commercial add-on CD without permission. Also you as the user, are not allowed to upload this aircraft to any websites and doing so will be constituted as an act of piracy and legal action may result.

It looks like it's been repainted by someone and was uploaded onto fsplanet

[ozzy72]

Okay guys, I've made this a sticky, its getting serious. I really DON'T know all the legal stuff we can do against this twit (Pete might), but I do know this, if he'd just had the courtesy to ask there would have been no problem, and the fact that some members of planet have posted in this thread just shows what a loyal and decent bunch everyone here is.

Right On
Ozzy

[loomex]

I just realized that he has done the same thing to me. I just checked my readme for the twp EB-52i's I made. It says

"       Copyright:

Please do no redistribute to anywhere unless I give permission to do so. Please contact me if you have intentions to upload these files to any site that these files weren't originally uploaded to. I will give permission to do so in most cases with the following exceptions                      

1. Commercial sites                        
2. Freeware sites that require you to pay to become a member to download files.
In any case, I will say this again, DO NO REDISTRIBUTE UNLESS I GIVE PERMISSION TO DO SO
With any case of redistribution, none of the contents may be edited or deleted without my prior permission to do so. None of the files in this package may be used with any other package unless I give you permission to do so.

[Beery]

...I've found my own files posted on many sites over the last 4 years (although not at FSPlanet). I have to say that I was genuinely flattered that anyone thought they were good enough to feature. Some webmasters asked permission before posting them while others did not. (If anyone had asked it would have been willingly granted.)

I agree.

[balboray]

Very nice said Barry!
Unfortunately many do not understand what the word freeware mean! Also is agree!  most of the freeware addons are produced with Microsoft or somebodyelse works - - but what is funny is : many freeware authors do clain copyrights of somebodyelse work - Just because the repack the same thing over and over again! come on guys - back to simming!! and stop wasting your time. Regarding membership sites: they offers a very good service - and for sure it will not take me 10 or so minutes to move into another page - !!!  very well worth the few dollars you pay for it!!  you know why ya mean!!  -
balbo

[FSTipster]

It's your opinion and you are entitled to it, as I am entitled to mine.

Beery - no offence, but your understanding of copyright law (as it pertains to in the U.K. anyway) is wrong. Microsoft have no automoatic ownership rights of anything just because they produce the product the add-ons work in.

Let us not forget that this is an issue over distribution licences - not copyright. Whilst the two are closely linked, they are not the same thing.

I've already explained why I choose to restrict distribution of my files in the last thread where this came up. I'm not going to repeat it all again. It's my choice to restrict it as it is your not to, and the law does exists to protect such rights.

[RIC_BARKER]

John,

I utterly agree with everything you have said in this thread - I back you 100% in your efforts. I also have had wranglings with Ferdy. I emailed him not to long ago asking him to remove 4 of my files from his site - he replied proply saying he would - but I had to give a reason. I simply stated that I didn't agree with the distribution policy of the site.

He then mailed back saying he had forwarded the email to his hosts, and they would be removed with a few hours.

Not so - still there.

Something about this email strikes me as odd. If he can upload to his site, why does he need to forward emails to his hosts to get them removed? I'm no webmaster, but that seems strange to me.

John, If you want a copy of our correspondence, I'll be happy to provide it to you.

At least this shows the ferdy@fsplanet.com address works, I guess he doesn't want to reply to your emails.

Also, a useful site that may explain copyright issues in terms of distribution rights, see here: http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

Let me know what help you need John, I'm more than happy to help in any way I can.

Ric B.

[balboray]

without offence to anybody.
So if the law exhist as you think - what are you waiting to take action??? rather than keep posting pointless messages at this board - - and wait for Italian Embassy to do if for you!!  Can you see you are make yourself simply look like a fish out of water??

balbo

[Blade]

balboray, where you come from money may grow on trees, but in the real world you have to work for it, some of us cannot afford to pay for high taxing international lawyers etc. Thats why we are trying to gain support, and maybe raise some money to do this.

[Beery]

I've already explained why I choose to restrict distribution of my files in the last thread where this came up. I'm not going to repeat it all again. It's my choice to restrict it as it is your not to, and the law does exists to protect such rights.

You're right.

[FSTipster]

Blade has hit the nail on the head. I'm currently unemployed and can't afford the up-front costs on this occasion.

Otherwise Ferdy would have heard from my solicitors by now.