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the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:25 pm
by F-16Viper

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:31 pm
by Hai Perso Coyone?
That's a really sad video :'( :'(

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:33 am
by AlphaBravo
I dont think anyone was on it... it said it was fully automated..

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:03 am
by Craig.
Why is this in the Jokes section?
There were people on board if I remember correctly.

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:27 am
by Saitek
Seen it before.
No-one was on it. I'm pretty sure.

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:39 am
by Craig.
26 June 1988; Air France A320; near Mulhouse-Habsheim Airport, France: The aircraft crashed into trees during an air show maneuver when the aircraft failed to gain height during a low pass with the gear extended. Three of the 136 passengers were killed.

why doesn't anyone listen to me ::)
you dont send airliners into the air with no-one on board. Something goes wrong with its systems and you have an unmanned missile.

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:53 am
by Hagar
I dont think anyone was on it... it said it was fully automated..

The accident and resulting fire killed 3 of the 130 passengers and none of the 6 crew members. Captain Asseline and FO Mazi

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:05 am
by F-16Viper
opps, sorry. i didnt reserch it or anything. shold i remove this post? :-[

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:53 am
by Saitek
I stand corrected. My apolagies.

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:09 pm
by Sytse
So is everybody sure that we're talking about the crash IN THE VIDEO here?

I also think it's a bit strange to do fly-by's at an airshow with 130 passengers on board... though I'm not questioning it actually hapened. I just think it's irresponsible.

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:11 pm
by Craig.
So is everybody sure that we're talking about the crash IN THE VIDEO here?

I also think it's a bit strange to do fly-by's at an airshow with 130 passengers on board... though I'm not questioning it actually hapened. I just think it's irresponsible.

Yes its the same one. And no, passenger flights doing airshow fly bys are not un-common. We used to get a United flight from America doing a fly by at Middle wallops airshow. Several other airlines do the same at airshows, sporting events or Public relations events.

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:24 pm
by Sytse
yes... but what about fly-by's WITH passengers? And how do you know for sure that the video displays the crash we're talking about?

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:29 pm
by Hagar
yes... but what about fly-by's WITH passengers? And how do you know for sure that the video displays the crash we're talking about?

I posted my reply before seeing Craig's. I'm positive it's the same incident as I remember seeing it on TV at the time it happened. The A320 was very new at the time & there was some doubt over the new fly-by-wire system. The pilot took the blame but he always protested there was a cover-up.

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:29 pm
by Craig.
yes, passenger flights. Thus flights with passengers. I saw a couple of them myself, hence living on said Army base during some 8 years worth of airshows. I know its this crash as I have been over it before. Plus look at Doug's quoted article. Then watch the video, Trust me its the same crash.

Re: the problem with autoland...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:37 pm
by Sytse
ah... I misread your line. should have put a comma between no and passenger flights  :)